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Re: [CQ-Contest] LoTW confirmation rates

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LoTW confirmation rates
From: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:42:03 -0600
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I was interested to read some of you folks comments.  Once a month I upload
my qsos to LOTW, e-QSL, and Clublog. My responses on LOTW have varied. I
have been contesting and DXing for a long time.  On the bands that I contest
on I am up to about +/- 30% with several thousand Qs on each band.  On the
WARC bands (with 100s of Qs) it is more like 50%. I think that LOTW is the
best thing that ARRL has done in years.  I have 309 countries confirmed just
through LOTW and I know there are folks that have done much better than I
have.

I suppose if I still used paper logs I might not be using LOTW but I
converted over to DXBase back in the DOS days and it was really a good
decision. It is hard for me to imagine anyone not liking LOTW. (yep, I am a
cheerleader!)

Bill W5VX

----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Robert Chudek - K0RC
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:52 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LoTW confirmation rates

Some of the "fishing" contacts might actually be busted calls. You only need
to look at your contest UBN report to see this. In Larry's case, and other
desirable DX, it's not out of the question that some SLIM was operating just
for the pile-up "jollies", therefore creating QSL requests that appear to be
fishing expeditions. The only difference is actually "seeing them" on eQSL
but not on LoTW. These situations are independent of any perceived security
of either system.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 2/13/2014 6:16 AM, Larry wrote:
> I upload to both LoTW and eQSL. I have gotten a few "fake" QSOs 
> against both my home call (130K QSOs) and my XV calls (3W2NWS - 5K 
> QSOs - and XV2W -20K QSOs). Most of the fake ones were for my XV2W 
> call and for a time I was not in XV. In total maybe 15 fake QSOs.
>
> Confirmation rate is nearly the same (within 1 per cent) for both LoTW 
> and eQSL at around 20 per cent overall for my home call which has many 
> QSOs before 2003 (roughly the start of LoTW and eQSL).
>
> Confirmation rate for my XV2W call has recently changed with LoTW now 
> around 37 per cent and eQSL around 28 per cent. These used to be much 
> more like my home call in range and spread between the two services.
> Paper QSL rate is about 25 per cent for the XV call. There is overlap 
> in these numbers in that some stations are confirmed in all three 
> categories (eQSL, LoTW, paper), some in two categories, and others in 
> only one category.
>
> There is a difference between continents for my XV2W QSOs. NA is 
> decidedly more LoTW oriented with 52 per cent confirmed LoTW vs 22 per 
> cent eQSL. AS OTOH is 32 vs 22 per cent (LoTW and eQSL respectively) 
> and EU at 38 vs 32 per cent.
>
> 73, Larry  W6NWS
>
> -----Original Message----- From: XV4Y (Yan)
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:08 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LoTW confirmation rates
>
> Hi Dale,
>
> Well, DXKeeper is free and has a very good integration with LotW.
> I use N1MM for actually logging the QSOs at my operating position, but 
> transfer them to DXKeeper for all the "log managing" and QSLing.
>
> I have 193 confirmed countries with LotW for 223 worked. Only CW and 
> SSB, really few DIGI.
> I was more than surprised of that confirmation rate, but it I confirm 
> you receive more confirmation from contesters and CWers than from SSB 
> DXers...
> I don't look at eQSL anymore as I receive far to more fake QSO requests.
>
> 73,
> Yan.
> ---
> Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y
> http://xv4y.radioclub.asia/
> http://varc.radioclub.asia/
>
> Le 13 févr. 2014 à 00:00, cq-contest-request@contesting.com a écrit :
>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:29:05 -0700
>> From: Dale Putnam <daleputnam@hotmail.com>
>> To: Scott Monks <cq_dx_de_aa0aa@yahoo.com>, 
>> "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>, 
>> "rtty@contesting.com" <rtty@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LoTW confirmation rates
>> Message-ID: <COL127-W36E6CFB6095EB3A0AAAB46D0920@phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> My Winlog32 does the eQSL thing automatically.. it does NOT do LOTW 
>> auto.. far from it.IN FACT.. I have not been successful with LOTW in 
>> well over two years. IF winlog32 or any logging program.. like N1MM 
>> would do the LOTW auto.. I'd be plumb happy...and so would a whole 
>> lotta other folk too. (the ones that need a WY confirmation).
>>
>> Have a great day,
>>
>>
>> --...   ...--
>> Dale - WC7S in Wy
>
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