Thanks, this definitely clears that up. One thing that was confusing for me
was … I did look at the contest rules on the ARRL Web Site, and while it stated
that HQ stations could be at multiple sites, as long as they were in the same
ITU Zone, I just didn’t see anything about antenna location. I assumed
therefore that it defaulted to the standard rules, which allow the use of
remote, but state that all antennas need to be within x number of feet/meters
of the station. I agree, that under these rules, DA0HQ did a nice job. I will
say, I sure hope this remain a forever very rare exception to this rule.
Remoting is one thing, allowing in effect separate TX and RX locations changes
things drastically (though it was a heck of a lot of fun when I was a Shore
Station op), and we all know that there are already stations doing it.
73
Steve KL7SB
From: David Siddall [mailto:hhamwv@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 3:10 PM
To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Cc: Stephen Bloom <sbloom@acsalaska.net>; frenaye@pcnet.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re; Use of remote receivers at "HQ" station in IARU
contest
It is clear in the IARU rules that the geographic boundary for stations
participating as HQ stations can be anywhere within their country so long as
all are within the same ITU zone. In the case of Germany, they certainly can
use remote receivers or complete remote stations, so long as the remote
locations are within Germany. (The ITU limitation does not apply to them. It
DOES apply to countries spanning multiple ITU zones, such as the USA and
Canada.)
I congratulate DA0HQ for their technological innovation in one of the few
contesting situations that allows this particular type of operation. I have
heard that one or more other HQ stations is doing the same or similar set-up.
The only other contest that I know that permits remotes is CQWW 160 (limited to
SOA HP and single remote within 100 kilometers).
It also is correct that IARU HQ stations are not entrants in the contest
itself. WWROF, not ARRL, scores their logs as a service. You can read more
information about this in my contesting column in CQ Magazine, June, 2017 at
pages 95-96 and continued in July, 2017 at pages 87-88. Or, you could just
read the IARU contest rules, they are clear enough about HQ station limits.
73, Dave K3ZJ
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:05 AM, <sbloom@acsalaska.net
<mailto:sbloom@acsalaska.net> > wrote:
Hi Tom et al:
I asked around about this before the WRTC closing ceremony tonight. The general
consensus is, "There are no rules for the HQ stations." One of the reasons I
assumed that there *were* rules is that this station (DA0HQ, no point in hiding
the obvious), was *so* serious about multiplier hunting etc. (enough to have
dedicated mult positions on each band). I took myself off the op list and left
for a number of reasons, but the final one was the "rx antenna" instructions.
I'd say bottom line, in this case it looks like it doesn't matter. The only
thing I'd add on this particular station is, my sense is that the remote
receivers are integrated with their normal rx antenna switching. It seems
unlikely to me that it would be that way, only for this contest, but that is of
course, speculation. Were I a log checker for one of the major contests and
DF0HQ/DA0HQ were one of the leaders, I would be asking for audio.
73
Steve KL7SB
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:02:36 -0400, Tom Frenaye wrote:
Steve/KL7SB wrote:
I was wondering about the following situation ..
I was scheduled to operate at one of the HQ stations for this contest. In
this case, this particular station was doing 15 and 40M CW, with stations in
other parts of the country, doing 10, 80, and 160. I didn't actually
operate, for reasons that don't matter at the moment. What was
strange, to me, is that when they were giving the ops instructions, and
explaining the rx antenna switching, they explained that positions 1-4 (I
think) were Beverages, and that in addition they had remote receivers, and were
encouraged to use them if necessary.
I checked out the IARU contest rules, and don't see anything stated
specifically, but I know in general, contest rules require all antennas both rx
and tx to be in fairly close proximity to the actual transmitting
location. Any ideas?
My reading of the IARU rules and the supplemental ARRL General Rules for
Contests suggests that remote receivers are not permitted, even for HQ
stations. Traditionally, HQ stations have been treated separately and have
special rules to allow multi-muli and stations in multiple QTHs within the same
ITU zone.
They don't officially compete for score - the rules say they get participation
certificates. But, the scores are collected and compared (I don't think it's
part of the IARU/ARRL log checking process, yet a table of HQ scores is
included in the results. The HQ competition is intense and at different times
there have been serious issues with some groups finding ways to bend/break the
rules in order to finish at or near the top.
I think it's a "bad thing" if one or more of them was actively using remote
receivers and hope the associated HQ scores will not be included in the final
table.
-- Tom
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