Well Guys,
We were so surprised as you to see in the published results the IUxHQ score,
we had
sended a log with 13,300,189 pints as claimed in the 3830 reflector.
Probable there were an error, we had notified it at Dan N1ND about that, at
these time
whe didn't know our real results after checklog.
We real knew to don't be in the real big battle, at this time HQ station are
spreadout
over Italy all in zone ITU 28 and last year we were not linked , next year
we will be
better !!!!
Our logs are avalaible if any want to look at them in deep, don't worry we
real know that
in these IARU Contest the HQ station need to work as much QSO as they can,
but mult's
number are always around the 10-15 % so the differents is made from QSO.
Congrat's to DA0HQ, and another follow team ....
I will be update the reflector is some news will be available..........
Best Regards
Fabio I4UFH
----- Original Message -----
From: "SP9P" <sp9p@joker.com.pl>
To: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>; "SP5UAF"
<tomek@sp5zcc.waw.pl>
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HQ stations - final results question
> Important are qso's and multi's
> the rest with zone's are big big mistake in the rules.
> Just my opinion.
> best regards & 73's
> Joe SP9P
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenneth E. Harker" <kharker@cs.utexas.edu>
> To: "SP5UAF" <tomek@sp5zcc.waw.pl>
> Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HQ stations - final results question
>
>
> > Along the same lines, the initial results for the 2002 IARU HF
World
> > Championship scored W1AW/5 wrong. The QSO points for W1AW/5 were
computed
> > as if the station were in ITU zone 8 (which is where W1AW actually is)
but
> > the W1AW/5 operation took place entirely in ITU zone 7 (central Texas,
> > to be specific) which made a BIG difference in the final score, as
W1AW/5
> > worked a lot more zone 8 stations than it worked zone 7 stations.
> >
> > Now, if an HQ station happens to operate from multiple ITU zones
> > or even continents (which has happened,) the score computation is even
> > more complicated, and more likely to be erroneously reported -
especially
> > if the HQ station doesn't make a real effort to communicate the unusual
> > situation to the log checkers. Hopefully, in a few more years of
computer
> > log checking with this contest, most of these special cases with the
> > HQ stations will have been accounted for in the process. Or, maybe we
> > should just get rid of HQ stations and all the silliness therein, and
> > make the contest results easier to generate :-)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 07:34:03PM +0100, SP5UAF wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Thanks to ARRL we already know the top scores of Single-Op and
> > > Multi-Op stations as well as complete results of HQ stations in the
> > > IARU HF 2003.
> > > Well, we all know that usually final scores are reduced comparing to
> > > claimed scores. No wonder, we all make mistakes receiving or typing
> > > callsigns, serial numbers etc.
> > >
> > > But claimed and final scores can be surprising. Claimed scores were as
> > > follows for IARU HF 2003 (top ten):
> > > Call QSOs Mult hr Score
> > > CW SSB
> > > R7HQ 16701 423 22,317,903
> > > DA0HQ 19085 473 24 17,869,467
> > > GB5HQ 6400 6487 448 24 17,074,624
> > > TM0HQ 5873 6153 434 24 16,816,198
> > > OL3HQ 5123 5677 428 24 15,807,324
> > > SN0HQ 7809 7874 456 24 15,752,520
> > > IU2HQ 5375 5633 443 24 13,300,189
> > > YT0HQ 5648 5429 445 24 13,070,095
> > > S50HQ 5054 4901 448 24 12,433,792
> > > PA6HQ 4834 4540 406 24 11,646,110
> > > SK9HQ 2234 1767 327 24 4,140,147
> > >
> > > And we have the following final scores (top 13) from the ARRL page
> > > (http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/2003/IARU.pdf)
> > > R7HQ 20,817,380
> > > IUxHQ 17,824,836
> > > DA0HQ 16,507,800
> > > GB5HQ 15,705,914
> > > TM0HQ 15,394,425
> > > SN0HQ 14,483,480
> > > EM5HQ 13,425,363
> > > 9A0HQ 13,085,082
> > > YT0HQ 11,662,121
> > > S50HQ 11,311,048
> > > OL3HQ 11,254,590
> > > OH2HQ 10,880,332
> > > PA6HQ 10,689,448
> > >
> > > It's a pity we do not know multiplier and points data details of the
> > > final results. But we can see two big differences in claimed/final
> > > scores.
> > >
> > > The first one is OL3HQ. Their claimed score was much bigger then the
> > > final one. I think that they made a mistake in the claimed score.
> > > Perhaps by mistake the "15" WAZ zone number was input in the log
> > > instead of "28" (ITU zone). It could make such a difference in the
> > > result.
> > >
> > > The second situation is with IUxHQ. Final score is about 4,5 milion
> > > points better to claimed score. Perhaps Italian HQ operators lost
> > > about 2.000 contacts in their claimed score. I think such a difference
> > > in the QSO number can produce about 4,5 mln points in the final score.
> > > Maybe we will be able to see the complete data (QSOs, QSO points,
> > > multiplier) soon after the complete results are published. But perhaps
> > > in the meantime someone from the Italian HQ team can give us some
> > > light in the subject.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Tom
> > > SP5UAF
> > >
> > >
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