GM4BAP wrote:
>might be an idea to try adding some kind of code to each score to indicate
>the gear used. eg:
>
> 4Y (4-el Yagi); 4Y4 (4x4-elYagi); 4Q (4-el Quad)
> 1 (at 10ft)... 19 (at 190ft)
> Q (QRP); B (barefoot 100W); H (half-gallon, 500W); F (full power 1.5kW
>
> something like: 40m: 5102/1975/26/83 - 3Y/120/F
>
> The RSGB tried something like this but seems to have given up. Too
>much hard work? If it's part of the "declaration" it's no great hassle.
No we haven't given up. The equipment coding on contest results is a
four-character code (because space for contest results is very tight)
with the following meaning:
First character: a numeric indicating power
0 0 - 1W
1 1 - 5W
2 6 - 20W
3 21 - 100W
4 101 - 400W
Second character: a letter indicating antenna type
C Centre-fed (dipole, doublet, G5RV etc)
G Ground Plane or Vertical
Y Yagi
Q Quad or Loop
W Wire (any other type)
Third character: number of antenna elements.
Fourth character: a digit indicating height of antenna
0 0 - 9ft
1 10 - 19ft
....
8 80 - 89ft
9 90ft or above
The idea was mainly aimed at the UK section of our contests. There would
continue to be one UK listing but within that, people could see how they
scored compared with others using a similar setup. A description of
equipment and antennas is not REQUIRED on the cover sheet so the problem
is that if insufficient entrants give their details, it isn't worth printing
the equipment code in the results.
Dave G4BUO
>From steven@zianet.com (Steve Nace KN5H) Tue Dec 12 23:23:19 1995
From: steven@zianet.com (Steve Nace KN5H) (Steve Nace KN5H)
Subject: New Categories - Why not a new contest?
beaton@wintermute.co.uk (Alastair Beaton) writes:
>Hi folks,
>
> Instead of introducing ever-less-meaningful contest categories, it
>might be an idea to try adding some kind of code to each score to indicate
>the gear used. eg:
>
> 4Y (4-el Yagi); 4Y4 (4x4-elYagi); 4Q (4-el Quad)
> 1 (at 10ft)... 19 (at 190ft)
> Q (QRP); B (barefoot 100W); H (half-gallon, 500W); F (full power 1.5kW)
>
> something like: 40m: 5102/1975/26/83 - 3Y/120/F
>
> The RSGB tried something like this but seems to have given up. Too
>much hard work? If it's part of the "declaration" it's no great hassle.
>
These are great ideas. Here is another.
Did you ever wonder what Sweepstakes would be like if you could work the guy
6 times? In my opinion, that would really be a contest. How about if the
Sweepstakes exchange was changed to something shorter. Repeating that
exchange 2000 times is a chore.
Did you find yourself screaming "59 New Mexico (insert ur QTH here), give me
your call again PLEASE" over and over last weekend during the 10 meter
contest? Is "59" totally useless? Probally. Throw in something like your
station setup (see above).
What does it really take to put on a new "super contest"? Would DX count?
Phone or CW or both? How about the WARC bands? Do the NAQPs & RadioSports
fulfill this super contest desire? Are there too many contests? Or are there
just too many categories? Perhaps all the log checkers out there could
provide info on what a nightmare it would be to sponsor ANOTHER contest.
Well, get to the point.
Maybe could CQ Magazine invent a Stateside/Sweepstakes type contest. Did I
just insult the entire DX population? I bet the ARRL has enough to do
without inventing more contests and (perhaps) more controversy.
Well, maybe someone will step up and sponsor something new. My ramblings
were just
a result of reading lots of posts about what seems to be a very difficult issue,
how to keep contesting exciting.
Tnx for the B-width. As always, summary if interest exists.
73 de Hose KN5H
>From RUSSELL S. RINN" <miltex@bga.com Wed Dec 13 05:52:43 1995
From: RUSSELL S. RINN" <miltex@bga.com (RUSSELL S. RINN)
Subject: 10m contest from N3BB
Message-ID: <199512130552.XAA23416@zoom.bga.com>
Callsign Used : N3BB
Operator : AA5RB
Category : SO, Phone Only, High Power
____________________________________
Valid QSOs Mults Countries
555 42 18
Final Score = 66600 points.
____________________________________
DX: CE, CP, CX, FR, HC, HK, KP2, KP4, LU, PY, TI, VP2V, YN, YV, ZL, ZS,
Z21, 9J2
As expected it was a long weekend.
Ten meters has always been my favorite band, and though it was VERY SLOW
going for 95% of the contest it was interesting. Watching different types of
propagation come and go as well as developing a comaradarie with the other
local stations was also fun.
Got off to a very slow start. Heard and worked a total of 8 stations the
first night even though I was actively CQing/S&Ping for 3 hours. I gave up
at 0315z after 2 solid hours of 0 qso's. (This was actually good practice
for the rest of the weekend).
Saturday started slow. (A trend I believe). The band finally came up to
speed around 1630z and then took off around 1700z. Worked some Africa/South
America and then (YES!) USA rate. It's ironic that I had my fastest hour of
the year in this contest. I had a 60 minute period (1730-1830) of 151.
This was short lived as I then spent the next 10 1/2 hours with a 39 hour
as the max. I had a few 11 hours and also a 2 hour stretch with 0 qso's.
I hit the sack at 0515z with 464.
Sunday started out similar to Saturday though not as good! South America
showed up about a bit later followed by Africa again. Unfortunately the
stateside stations never materialized. An opening to Arizona and a couple of
W6's was about it. I started at 1215z and had 12 hours averaging 8 /hr.
I worked 91 stations on Sunday (1215z-2400z).
Of course the last half hour of the contest the band opened. I worked a NJ
station for a mult (!) with 30 minutes left followed by ZL, a run of LU's
and a smattering of W3's, 4's, 7's, 8's and 9's.
Notes:
Seems like W4 and the mid-Atlantic area may have been a good place to
be. I would have settled for a couple of hundred miles to the north. I
heard N5OLS with openings to areas I never got.
The cold front hit Central Texas Friday evening, so I had +30db line noise
at times through the weekend like everyone else.
Special tnx to N5OLS and some locals for making it fun. We checked
in with each other periodically (comiserated) and discussed the
band swings and DX we'd heard.
Tnx to my DVP for allowing me to use and abuse - and amuse, as I recorded 6
different CQ messages.
Finally, I wish more people would have stopped by the band. I had some form
of propagation to various areas and there was no one to work. Occasionally
I would ask some of the stations what they were using and most were running
100w to a low tribander. As an example, I probably could have worked
AZ/So. Cal on Sunday for 2 or 3 hours, but not many on.
Big signals: N6YK/7 +40db on CW, VP2VF +50db for about 60 mins.
Tnx again to Jim, N3BB, for letting me use his station.
73, Russ--
AA5RB
miltex@bga.com
>From RUSSELL S. RINN" <miltex@bga.com Wed Dec 13 05:58:07 1995
From: RUSSELL S. RINN" <miltex@bga.com (RUSSELL S. RINN)
Subject: New Categories - replt to Ray
Message-ID: <199512130558.XAA23757@zoom.bga.com>
Hi Ray. Thanks for your comments. Here are more of mine...
>> 1) My attitude is based on what I see as something detrimental to
>> the spirit of true competetion (in anything, not just contesting). I don't
>> view it as positive.
>I fail to see how these new categories are "detrimental to the spirit
>of true competition". Are the top guns going to have to work any less
>hard to finish in the top ten? Are they going to feel slighted by the
>fact that their underexperienced and underequipped brethren are in
>different categories now? I think not.
Is it really competition if you don't compete with everyone. Winning should
be meaningful. Diluting it minimizes accomplishment.
Also, what happens when a Force 12 C3 at 120' and wires at 100' go against a
TH3 at 40' and wires at 35'? Big difference - same category. What's next,
a limit on tower height?
>In a purely domestic contest this argument might hold water. Not in WPX.
Actually no. I think a greater disparity in scores occur in DX style
contests - which WPX leans toward.
In every contest propagation tends to favor one area over another.
Who will win the Triband category in a DX contest? Probably an East Coast
station. Who would win the category in a domestic contest? Probably a
southwest or midwest station. New categories will NEVER change this.
>> 2) When I'm operating I have a pretty good idea of all the similarly
>> equipped stations out there, I don't need a category to list 'em all.
>How? I have no clue who is operating with similar hardware as me
>except those relative few who post their station descriptions here
>on cq-contest or send me QSL cards with that info on them.
People out there must know what others run or there wouldn't be this push, by
some folks, for categories for Triband stations, etc.
I'll bet you have a pretty good idea. If you've been contesting lately I'm
sure you have an idea what K1EA, K4VX or W3LPL uses. Do you fall into that
category? By simple process of elimination and research you can make a
fairly educated guess. No not down to the last nut or bolt, but at least
number of towers and antennas. When someone beats me I try to learn as much
as I can about that station and op. It helps me prepare. What are they doing
better? Are they using antennas pointed at each coast? Ask 'em for their
rate sheets to see when they were where. I've picked up good hints by *asking*
those that beat me how they do things. I spent hours looking at photos of
stations so I could improve my station layout to be more effective.
In business you try to figure out why a certain company is more profitable
than you or won a recent contract. Same concept.
>> However, I didn't want to compare myself with those similary equipped, I
>> wanted to take on all stations in my category. I get satisfaction from
>> trying to operate my way past better equipped stations (and not be
>> outdone by those less equipped).
>That's great...and I'm sure the CQ people won't have a problem if
>you want to enter the big gun class even if you qualify for one of
>the others. Some of us DO want to compare ourselves with those
>similarly equipped.
Can you really get an exact comparison? Can you in Mississippi compare to
a station in the Yukon running EXACTLY what you are? No way. Propagation
differences alone prevent that.
>To be sure, the best solution for me (and I've brought this up before)
>would be to have an encoded string describing each entrant's antenna
>configuration right there in the line score, and I could compare
>my score to my peers (hardware wise) myself without additional
>categories being necessary. That is easier said than done though.
>I'm just glad they are doing what they can.
>Ray Rocker ... WQ5L
Frankly it seems as if this reflector is a good place to elaborate on station
conditions. Let us draw our own conclusions.
In conclusion...
Once again it must be a difference in philosophy. In basketball I always
want to guard the other teams best player. How can I test myself if I play
against someone who has my identical skills.
Thanks again Ray. 73 and happy holidays.
Russ--
Russell Rinn
AA5RB
miltex@bga.com
>From floydjr@nr.infi.net (jim floyd) Tue Dec 12 17:04:33 1995
From: floydjr@nr.infi.net (jim floyd) (jim floyd)
Subject: ARRL 10 Meter Contest 95 Scores II
Message-ID: <199512121804.NAA02961@moe.infi.net>
ARRL 10 Meter Contest 1995
Raw Scores
Compiled by
WA4ZXA
Date Posted: 12/12/95
CALL HRS SCORE QSO'S PTS SEC DX
________________________________________________________________________
Single OP/QRP
>SSB<
>CW<
>Mixed<
WF2V 160 12 4
Single OP/HP/Unassisted
>SSB<
ZS9F 195,716 866 1732 42 70
ZS6BRZ 150,876 762 1524 39 60
K4VUD 78,800 704 44 12
ZS6BRH 67,490 397 35 50
N3BB 66,660 555 42 18
N8RA/1 65,800 731 32 13
KE5FI 37,026 363 29 22
KQ4HC 21,620 235 35 11
WB1GQR 16,056 223 446 28 8
KF8UM 18 7,488 117 26 6
N9ITX/7 4,524 78 22 7
VE6JY 2,268 63 126 10 8
KK5DK 4 2 1
>CW<
K1ZX/4 151,956 567 45 22
KM9P 102,600 420 48 14
N8RR 10 24,300 135 36 9
AA7BG 31 21,328 172 25 6
K7FR 19,000 190 680 28 6
VSYBG 4 1 1
VR2GO 4 1 1
>Mixed<
AC4NJ (OP WC4E) 245,952 820 86 26
K3ZO 28 197,802 669 69 30
NC0P 143,000 473 102
K6LL 103,500 493 1500 51 18
KE9A 13 97,328 426 58 19
WD0T 55,700 287 54 15
WM2C 9 51,688 324 994 44 8
W9UP 19,902 151 43
KI8W 3 9,042 274 33
WF1B 6,500 100 260 24 1
WX9E 2,272 42 16
KD6DAE 1,656 184 9
AE2T 384 15 7 1
Single OP/LP/Unassisted
>SSB<
N3AL 38,352 408 30 17
N9ISN 16,926 217 25 14
K8HVT/1 7,912 86 18 5
WA4ZXA 9 5,640 94 18 12
>CW<
AC1O/4 82,700 397 40 12
W5HUQ 56,000 280 39 11
KP4VA (OP KP4TK) 31,960 170 680 36 11
N9XBM @KO9Y 29,184 191 29 9
KR4DL 24,864 168 672 29 8
WA2SRQ 6 21,080 170 26 5
W3CPB 6,480 90 360 15 3
K7NPN 4 5,400 90 15
K7MM 5,112 71 284 13 5
AB7GM 204 17 3
KD0AV/9 1 204 17 2 1
>Mixed<
W3EP 108,000 484 59 17
AA4GA 73,472 315 896 65 17
WA6KUI 48,768 247 64
K2UF 41,600 211 45 19
WA0QOA 30,184 232 686 33 11
WA0X 28,600 276 30 17
WA7BNM 26,600 242 31 7
WF2L 7,600 59
K6XO/7 3,058 96 11
KK7A 820 27 82 8 2
Multi-Single
N4ZC 263,000 723 83 36
NU4Y 170,000 671 77 27
NC0P 140,000 473 102
AA3JU 100,864 610 1576 47 17
AA5UO 70,500 398 44 28
N5RP 63,992 291 842 76
KR4YL @WB2LES 37,576 246 616 42 19
K0LUZ 23,120 170 680 28 6
K0RC 16,000 127 35 7
KC4UCK/T 13 8,878 157 386 23
VE5MX 784 19 6 8
Multi-Operator
N2BIM 162,000 516 62 20
K3WW 150,858 560 64 23
AA4NC 127,000 585 72 31
AA3JU 100,800
WS1C 13 89,200 415 62 13
K7UP 30,000 200
AB4RU 27,000 170 43 12
AA8SM 5,366 74 186 23 3
***************************************************************************
73's Jim
Amateur Call: WA4ZXA
Email: floydjr@nr.infi.net
Packet Node: N4ZC
>From Gary Sutcliffe" <gary.sutcliffe@mixcom.com Wed Dec 13 13:47:49 1995
From: Gary Sutcliffe" <gary.sutcliffe@mixcom.com (Gary Sutcliffe)
Subject: W9XT 10M Score
Message-ID: <199512131347.HAA29184@mixcom.mixcom.com>
1995 ARRL TEN METER CONTEST
Call used: W9XT Location: WI
Category: Single Op Mode: MIXED Power: 1500
Callsign of Operator: W9XT
Exchanged Information: W9XT 59(9) WI
band QSOs points mults
CW 175 700 42 (34 states, 8 DX)
SSB 240 480 42 (28 states, 14 DX)
TOTAL 415 1180 84 SCORE: 99,120
Club or Team Name: Society of Midwest Contesters
Equipment: TS930, AL1200, TH7, A3
Comments:
This is the third sunspot minimum since the start of this contest,
and the worst conditions I have seen in it. No good Es openings
from here. Other than locals and a few meteor bursts, few signals
moved the S-meter. It was a good thing that there was lots of
football on TV!
Sub-zero temperatures and high winds caused S4 line noise Sunday.
Many thanks to those who were patient enough to repeat their calls
and exchange.
73 - Gary
--
Gary Sutcliffe - W9XT Unified Microsystems (414) 644-9036
ppvvpp@MIXCOM.COM PO Box 133, Slinger WI 53086
>From P.L.Reed@sussex.ac.uk (Peter Reed) Wed Dec 13 14:04:00 1995
From: P.L.Reed@sussex.ac.uk (Peter Reed) (Peter Reed)
Subject: ct reflector info pse
Message-ID: <m0tPrnd-0002vrC@solx1.central.susx.ac.uk>
Hi all. Please excuse my posting this request for ct info on the CQ reflector
but a while ago I either "unsubscribed" or set "set nomail" on the ct reflector.
I would now like to activate things again but have lost the e-mail address
for ct requests.
Could someone mail it to me, please (mail rather than post here to avoid
further unecessary postings).
Many thanks and 73, Peter, G4BVH
e-mail: P.L.Reed@sussex.ac.uk
>From Wassell, James T., Ph.D." <jtw2@NIOSR1.EM.CDC.GOV Wed Dec 13 14:13:00
>1995
From: Wassell, James T., Ph.D." <jtw2@NIOSR1.EM.CDC.GOV (Wassell, James T.,
Ph.D.)
Subject: K3JT 10 M contest results
Message-ID: <30CE606A@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov>
Results K3JT 10 Meter contest, CW only, HP, SO
QTH: West Virginia
QSO's: 142, States: 29, countries: 3 (LU, PY, CX)
Total Score = 18,176.
Rig: Yaesu FT-902DM, Clipperton L amp (bandswitch failed again,
had to solder jumper from 15m coil tap to the 10M coil tap).
Antennae: Horizontal vee, about 220 feet long each leg, GP, dipole.
(next time I want to have huge long stacked yagis).
Noise was terrible, signals weak until Sunday evening opening when signals
were 599+40
from florida (but I had already worked everybody when they were weak).
Apologies to at least 2 stations that did not get in my log on Saturday
because
I did not copy their section on meteor propagation - when I asked for a
repeat,
they were gone. It was nice to work California and Washington State.
Would have been nice to get more Carribean and South America.
Major propagation modes: Meteor, aircraft scatter ?, ESP.
Thanks to everyone who gave me a QSO and I was glad to provide the WV
multiplier.
73, Terry, K3JT.
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