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Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS

To: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>,cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS
From: "K0HB " <k-zero-hb@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: k-zero-hb@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 02:15:29 -0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Good job, Ron.  That oughta pretty much nail it down.

I will use rule 4.4.c.1 and give it my best guess at 2059Z on each
Sweestakes Saturday. 

73, de Hans, K0HB
--
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> [Original Message]
> From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Date: 11/8/2007 2:07:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS
>
> A solution that only a lawyer could love:
>
>   4    Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
>   ~
>   4.4. Check
>   4.4.a.  Single Operators
>   4.4.a.1.   Operating from their own station, or as a guest operator
under
> their own call: the last two digits of the year you were first licensed.
>   4.4.a.2.    Operating as a guest operator under another individual
> operators call:  the last two digits of the year the station owner was
first
> licensed
>   4.4.a.3.    Operating as a guest operator under a club call sign:  the
> last two digits of the year the club or club predeccesor was first
licensed
>   4.4.b.  Multi Operator stations
>   4.4.b.1   Non-club groups:  the last two digits of the year the station
> owner was first licensed
>   4.4.b.2.  Club stations:  the last two digits of the year the club or
club
> predeccesor was first licensed.
>   4.4.b.2.a.  If the club was formed from the combination of two or more
> clubs over the years, the first year of license of the "surviving"
> organization should be used.  If it was a true merger with neither of the
> original organizations "surviving," the club may use the year of the
merger,
> or the year that the oldest predecessor club was first licensed,
>   4.4.c.    Exceptions:
>   4.4.c.1.  If an individual operator lacks documentation to specifically
> identify the year of first license, or if that individual operator does
not
> recall the year of first license, he or she should use their best
reasonable
> guess to identify the year of first license.
>   4.4.c.2.  If a club station lacks documentation to specifically identify
> the year of first license for the club or it's predecessors, or there are
> more than one eligible predeccesro clubs or equivalent entities, the
station
> trustee or other officer of the club should use their best reasonable
guess
> to identify the year of first license.
>   4.4.c.3.  If an individual or club has in good faith selected what they
> reasonably assume to be their best guess as to the year of first license,
> and they find out in the course of the contest that this information might
> be inaccurate, they are to continue using the same check that they began
the
> contest with to avoid discrepancies with stations who have already
contacted
> them.
>   4.4.c.4.  If an individual or club learns (as noted in 4.4.c.3 above)
that
> they used the wrong check in the CW portion of the contest, they should
use
> the correct check in the SSB portion of the contest.
>
> -------
> Now, do we REALLY need to get THAT detailed in the description of how to
> determine the check?
>
> Yes, I'm disappointed that my old college club has used the "wrong" check
> because the kids up there don't know the club history, but I'll live.  At
> least they're making a good faith effort to stay within the rules.
>
> But I disagree with this notion of "just pick two digits at random" as
that
> is not within the spirit, if not the letter, of the rules.  That it isn't
> enforced is beside the point; you are expected to use good amateur
practice
> when operating, and that means (IMHO, YMMV) staying within the spirit if
not
> the letter of the rules.
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:06:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jim Reisert AD1C <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CK in ARRL SS
> To: Steve Harrisonusa <k0xp@dandy.net>,       Jim Reisert AD1C
>       <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: rneece@bwsm.com, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>,
>       contest@arrl.org
>
> --- Steve Harrisonusa <k0xp@dandy.net> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, doesn't fly with me. The rule is already perfectly clear: THE
YEAR
> > THE STATION WAS FIRST LICENSED.
> >
> > What's to misunderstand about that???????
>
> Steve, the rule is NOT clear:
>
> http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2007/novss.html
>
>   4    Exchange: The required exchange consists of:
>   4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were first licensed);
>
> Who is "you" at a multi-op station?
>
> 73 -  Jim AD1C
>
>
> --
> Jim Reisert AD1C/?, <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>, http://www.ad1c.us
>
>
>
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