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Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)

To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>, "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:43:40 +0500
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Mike,
Not everybody is using N1MM+
Every contest I run into at least a dozen ops who send their own call sign 3 times in 3 different ways leaving me to guess which one is correct. Two way qso is a result of team work of sender and receiver. Your statement " Generally it is the receiver..." still leaves room for sender mistakes.
73, Igor UA9CDC
----- Исходное сообщение ----- От: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
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Отправлено: 11 ноября 2016 г. 6:12
Тема: Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)


In this case the patient is the one penalized...........:(

How can I know what you copied unless you are saying that all exchanges must be sent back and confirmed. If so you might have a tough time selling it. People like to contest for the speed runs. SS is loosing traction because of the very long, read boring exchange unless you are SO2R.
Generally it is the receiver that blows the exchange.  I have yet to hear 
N1MM+ screw up sending my memory info.

On 11/10/2016 4:48 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
Ward,
Very interesting. But this approach begs the question: If prescription finally got wrong (name of the medicine or dosage) who's fault is it? Transmitter or receiver? Should not both sides be penalized?
73, Igor UA9CDC

----- Исходное сообщение ----- От: "Ward Silver" <hwardsil@gmail.com>
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Отправлено: 10 ноября 2016 г. 21:18
Тема: Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)


> If it wasn't a penmanship contest then, why is it a typing contest
now?

At the risk of setting off a "plastic owl pointing true north by remote control" thread...
Why is it that we have contests at all?  It is to practice our ability 
to communicate and to reward effectiveness - in whatever form that 
takes. Part of it is knowing when the bands are open and closed.  Part 
of it is assembling a station that works well.  Part of it is having 
good operating technique.  And part of it is accurately transcribing the 
exchanged information into whatever format is required.
We are fond of claiming that contesting makes us good public service 
operators and all that back-patting we do for ourselves.  Imagine we are 
relaying orders for prescription medicines needed in a disaster area. 
Is a typo in "hydrochlorothiazide" acceptable because we were in a 
hurry? ("Can you give me that phonetically before the band closes?") Is 
mistakenly changing a dosage of 50 mg to 500 mg OK because we hit 0 
twice? ("Whoa - how did that huge hairy bat get in here?")  Of course 
not...we would recognize that as an error and we should do so when N0AX 
gets changed to N0XA.  Each unforced error needs to produce negative 
feedback so we will work to lower our error rate.  The CQ WW 
introduction of penalties for errors was exactly the right remedy for 
sloppy operating because it provides both carrot and stick to operate at 
a rate no faster than what optimizes effective operating.  Nothing is 
error-free but a three-QSO penalty has a way of focusing the mind.
At any rate (so to speak), anything noted during the period of 
competition is fair game for log correction.  I would prefer in the long 
term that QSOs are submitted in real-time and verified shortly 
thereafter so that this whole notion of "log" goes away along with all 
the misbehavior and delays it engenders, but in the mean time, 
transcription into the submitted record of competition is as much a part 
of the contest as transmitting the information in the first place.
73, Ward N0AX
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