Re: [CQ-Contest] on line scores

[David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>]

I don't think it adds a thing to anyone not actually in the contest.  I 
can't imagine that more than a handful of non-contesters are going to 
spend any time at all watching a set of numbers increment on their screen.
"Re-imagining contesting" is going to require something far more 
interesting than simply making scores more visible.  It's going to 
require coming up with contest formats that more closely parallel online 
gaming .... where the action a participant takes directly and in real 
time impacts the actions and scores of competitors, and where teams of 
players can collaboratively accomplish something in real time that they 
couldn't individually.  I've pondered this issue at great length and 
haven't come up with anything yet that works for radiosport, but the 
model is certainly there.  There are more people actively playing EACH 
of the major online games than there are U.S. amateur radio licensees in 
total.
Dave  AB7E



On 11/26/2013 9:20 AM, Steve Dyer wrote:
> I am super excited about the idea of real-time posting AND scoring. It 
> would be a tool to attract a lot of very positive attention to radio 
> sport. A real game changer that would allow us to promote contesting 
> as the modern, exciting activity it is to a *global* audience. An 
> audience that expects to see results real-time, not 12 months later. 
> The contest sponsors need to wake up on this one and make it their #1 
> priority if they want to survive. They will get a lot more attention 
> from advertisers and sponsors if they can break the current mold and 
> re-imagine contesting. Print cycles for dead tree magazines should not 
> be driving the agenda anymore.
> ...but it's got nothing to do with using Skimmer.
>
> 73,
> Steve
> W1SRD
> > Soap Box- I want to commend the teams that took the time to post their
> > scores
> > on the cqcontest.ru site. Our friends in UA have dove an excellent 
> > job in
> > making the site easy to use and very accurate. On a different note I 
> > will
> > propose a change to the CQWW Rules to include some sort of rule that 
> > if a
> > station uses skimmer, packet or any other means of gathering information
> > they
> > will be obligated to post their scores. Here is a classic example 
> > given to
> > me
> > by KY4F.
> >
> > "You and your wife are huge Golf fans, and save, and finally buy tickets
> > to the Master's Golf Tournament (CQWW CW is much like the Master's). 
> > In the
> > process of your attendance, Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson decide 
> > that they
> > will not allow their scores to be listed on the leader boards and 
> > that they
> > will keep their score cards in their pocket and not allow any fans or 
> > other
> > competitor to see their score. Their score cards will not be 
> > available until
> > after every participant has finished the Tournament".
> >
> > I see no discernible difference in the above case, and our current 
> > leaders
> > in
> > CQWW who refuse to participate in posting their scores online. It is 
> > done in
> > the Golf world to openly and frankly show what the score is at every
> > stroke. It
> > is a display of honesty and frankness and is a requirement for entry 
> > in any
> > golf
> > tournament. I call upon all of the contesting community to request...no
> > require... that all participants who use any method of information
> > collection
> > to post their scores!
> >
> > As the contesting community has adjusted to the requirement for logs 
> > to be
> > sent
> > in and posted for all to see, it is now time to change this unnecessary
> > behavior
> > and openly post your score for all to see. Not posting your score 
> > equals non
> > entry in the contest.
> >
> > de Rick NQ4I
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