Excellent points Mike.
These remotes that are being offered now are usually offered in "first
world" localities with a resident ham on site, dedicated power mains,
fiber optic internet connections (meaning at least 5 MBPs speed), and
relatively benign weather.
Consider the weather on Bouvet, Kingman Reef, or other locality.
A remote station might last a month using a satellite connection and
installed antenna. Good luck on the power source. Solar generation
doesnt get you very far on Bouvet.
73 Rich NN3W
On 11/5/2015 3:20 PM, W0MU wrote:
Please feel free to put a remote station in Bovet or any other rare DX
and see how that works out for you. I don't think you have a clue how
much work needs to go into your pie in the sky example.
Whether a section is rare or not has no relevant meaning. The rules
allow this. Rare is subjective. What is rare for you may not be rare
to me or the next guy. So you would rather VY1 not be on the air at all?
So you would be ok with me running a remote station in the very unrare
section of Colorado? Sounds Hypocritical to me.
You do realize that remote operations are allowing people to operate,
legally and fully within the rules who might not otherwise be able
to? You are ok with this? So you would rather have less people
operating in a contest. Curious.
What is bogus? Who said it? You realize that the vast majority of
people are for remote operations, which is why the rules allow it. It
is only a few that tend to complain constantly about it.
The hobby has changed dramatically since the early 1900's. I would
guess those amateurs might not recognize what Amateur radio is today
vs what it was back then.
What limits? The FCC allows this and so do the rules. Exactly what
is wrong here? Someone is operating a radio station in a far off
place from his living room. This is pretty damn cool and something
that actually could be "sold".
W0MU
On 11/4/2015 9:02 AM, Drew Vonada-Smith wrote:
Friends,
I had to take this opportunity after the comment about the end of
rare sections...
I think all this remote work, trying to help J. etc is interesting
and wonderful and I really don't mean to be negative. But...what is
the point of a "rare section" if you don't have to be there to
operate? Doesn't this in many ways, miss the point of a multiplier?
As an analogous example, what if a DXpedition were to put up an
automated station in Bouvet, and operate it from home? Bouvet becomes
common. What have we really achieved? HF propagation to Bouvet was
never really the point, was it?
I'm not a Luddite, I get the interest, good intentions, and
technical achievement in all this. It sounds fun! But as a test to
see if I was just narrow-minded or a fuddy-duddy, I ran this remote
idea past a few non-hams who know just enough about contesting to
understand. The comments I received were:
- That's bogus
- That's cheating
- You guys have lost your way
Can't say I disagree. Food for thought. Not to stop such
operations, progress will always move forward, but to try and
recognize what it all means and establish limits.
73,
Drew K3PA
-----Original message-----
From:Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com>
Sent:Wed 11-04-2015 09:21 am
Subject:[CQ-Contest] Who is this guy, really?
To:CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>;
W1VE said: "Thanks to a lot of work from J and the remote team, Hal,
W1NN,
will operate [VY1AAA] SOHP in November SS via remote from his home in
Ohio."
OK, so "Hal, W1NN" will operate a NT station from his home in Ohio.
But for the past many contests "Hal" has purportedly operated "W1NN" in
Ohio ... remotely from Japan. (You could look it up.)
Can we believe that "Hal" is really where he says he is, or that the
station is where it claims to be, or even who he says he is?
(In case I'm too subtle, that was a joke.)
And Gerry will be (actually, physically) at K2LE in VT. Could that be
competition for W1SJ?
Are we about to see the end of rare Sections in SS? (Not a joke.)
73, Art K3KU
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