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Re: [CQ-Contest] TR4W Report

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] TR4W Report
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:19:25 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
An entirely different proposition, Barry.  RUFZxp is a great program, but 
it is not trying to handle asynchronous events like the arrival of packet 
spots, operators moving windows around the screen, network communications 
between computers in a multi, and so on.  Most everything RUFZxp does other 
than send CW is done between CW transmissions, not during them.

73, Pete N4ZR

    At 12:22 PM 12/2/2007, Barry wrote:
>Windows CW was also solved, into the hundreds of WPM, by the authors of
>RUFZxp, DL4MM and IV3XYM, so it is certainly doable without the need for
>external devices.
>Barry W2UP
>
>Craig Cook wrote:
> > I asked the TR4W author about possibly supporting winkey in the future, but
> > he said their is no need to do so since TR4W produces "normal" cw. I
> > wondered how he did that. Now I know.
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2007 5:13 PM, <steve.root@culligan4water.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Due to work and family commitments I wasn't able to put in much of an
> >> effort into the ARRL 160 contest this year. But like Dick I was 
> intrigued by
> >> a Windows version of TR. The version of TR4W I have doesnt support 2 radio
> >> operatio yet but it would work well for a single band contest like the 
> 160.
> >> I managed to get a few hours in this evening and test drive this program
> >> while I was at it.
> >> It's close, in fact very close in operation to TR. However I did notice
> >> that on an intermittent basis is would send poor sounding CW. Not 
> gargbage,
> >> but the timing was goofy. I've never had TR-DOS act like this. I'm using a
> >> 1.3 Ghz pentium with 1.3 G of Ram running Windows XP SP2.
> >> Other than the CW keying issue I had nothing to complain about.
> >> 73 Steve K0SR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Richard J. Norton [mailto:richardjnorton@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 07:01 AM
> >>> To: 'CQ-Contest'
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] TR4W Report
> >>>
> >>> This is not a report about operating from Gabon, but a report about a
> >>> Windows-based version of the TR-Log contest logging program.
> >>>
> >>> While in California, VU2PTT alerted me to the existence of the TR4W
> >>> program, produced by Dmitriy Gulyaev, UA4WLI. Being an old dog, and
> >>> not wanting to learn new tricks, I desired a contest logging program
> >>> that would permit me to use the efficient features of TR-Log to which
> >>> I have become accustomed, and also work with today's computers.
> >>> Essentially, TR-Log differs from other logging programs in that it
> >>> functions differently in the CQ mode and the S&P mode. Keystroke
> >>> functions are minimized for each mode, and hitting the easy-to-find
> >>> "enter" or "space" or "escape" key will result in the desired
> >>> response.
> >>>
> >>> The bottom line is that TR4W works and fulfills both requirements. I
> >>> was active in the CQWW CW Contest from Honduras as HQ2A, where I gave
> >>> TR4W a 44 hour checkout.
> >>>
> >>> The program ran on a 1.8 MHz, Windows XP, Great-Quality brand low-cost
> >>> laptop purchased from Fry's Electronics, a large chain computer store.
> >>> The computer has one parallel printer port, no serial ports, and two
> >>> USB ports.
> >>>
> >>> TR4W generates CW without any external boxes, and runs the
> >>> one-transistor keying interfaces such as the W1WEF units. You can
> >>> detect that the Windows XP-generated keying is not perfectly uniform
> >>> if you are critically listening, but when I spoke with people after
> >>> the contest, no one reported noticing anything during my operation.
> >>> Given my power-line noise environment, I never transmitted faster than
> >>> 38 WPM, as I didn't want people answering me at higher speeds. Mostly,
> >>> I used 32 WPM.
> >>>
> >>> The computer keyed an Icom IC-765 through its parallel port, with a
> >>> single transistor interface. While testing the TR4W program in
> >>> California, I borrowed a USB to serial adapter, and subsequently also
> >>> had TR4W reading and controlling the frequency of an FT-1000D. In
> >>> Honduras, I borrowed HC2J's IC-765 transceiver at the last moment, and
> >>> had no cables to permit frequency interface during the CQWW.
> >>>
> >>> The TR4W look on the display is very similar, but not exactly the
> >>> same, to that of TR-Log since TR4W permits optionally including or
> >>> excluding support-information windows such as missing-multipliers or
> >>> bandmaps.
> >>>
> >>> Operationally, the programs essentially perform identically. A few
> >>> minor things didn't work in the 2.32 version that I used, such as the
> >>> quick-QSL key. But using a keying-paddle also directly connected to
> >>> the IC-765, I was comfortably able to accomplish the same thing. In
> >>> fact, in cases where I had copied two callsigns at once, I was able to
> >>> work the two stations in a row quite smoothly with the keyboard and
> >>> paddle combination.
> >>>
> >>> No packet associated features were tested or should ever be expected
> >>> to be tested by me.
> >>>
> >>> Once in a while, the program would cease to work. Then I would find
> >>> that somehow the mouse icon had slipped out of the TR4W window. Moving
> >>> the cursor back and clicking would get things working again. Note that
> >>> I look at the keyboard to type.
> >>>
> >>> I used an earlier version, TR4W 2.32 beta, that saved the log files as
> >>> plain text files such as done by TR-Log. Having seen many cases of
> >>> corrupted binary log files over the year, I am partial to
> >>> easy-to-correct text files. Text files also permit use of my TR-Log
> >>> analysis tools. I notice that the newest version of TR4W seems to save
> >>> log files in a binary format, but has capability for exporting of the
> >>> text files.
> >>>
> >>> TR4W operation was perfectly satisfactory. Last year, I carried a 486
> >>> DOS-based desktop overseas in checked luggage to permit use of the
> >>> DOS-based TR-Log program. This year, only my laptop, which comes along
> >>> anyway, took the overseas trip.
> >>>
> >>> TR4W, in its current beta version, is freeware. It is available at
> >>> http://tr4w.qrz.ru/
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to UA4WLI for producing it.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Dick Norton, N6AA
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>Barry Kutner, W2UP             Newtown, PA
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