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Re: [CQ-Contest] Americas Cup Sailing - Watch and Learn

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Americas Cup Sailing - Watch and Learn
From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:36:58 -0600
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I'd support both suggestions of N4ZR.

And, just as America's Cup boats, and all other sailboats,
rely only on wind, waves and currents for propulsion, how
about contesters relying only on ham-band RF for communication
- with no dependence on external electronic networks?

After all, that's the way the WRTC teams will do it next month.

Or, if that's a step too far, let those who communicate
over external electronic networks compete among themselves.

73,
Paul EI5DI



On 11/06/2017 07:42, N4ZR wrote:
OK - so where is our "bright line"?  I've been arguing the need for a
consensus on this for a decade.

I hope nobody will consider me a Luddite - Iwrote arguably the first
computer contest logger with integrated CW (for the TRS-80 Model 100
and Commodore 64) back in the 1970s, and I'm one of the founders of
the RBN.

But... for the sake of discussion, how about:

CW and SSB - all decoding and transcription of transmissions to be
done by use of a human brain.  Yes, I know this "discriminates"
against people who don't know CW, but it's a small price to pay to
prevent the advent of truecontesting robots.

RTTY/Digital - no modes that are capable of receiving below 0 SNR

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 6/11/2017 7:49 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
If anyone needed to see a better display of what can happen when
technology
starts taking over a sport, this is it - on steroids.  The technology
has
developed to the point where the reserve of manmade hydraulic energy is
becoming a limiting factor on the boat (the boats are trying to make
numerous movements a minute of foils and the wing sail under heavy
tension
force requiring A LOT of hydraulic energy but with only manmade or wind
energy available).  This has turned the race into 2 guys doing the
sailing
and 4 guys making energy.  Computer control with helmsman inputs
doing the
rest.


The sailing crowd has been complaining for a decade now that its no
longer
sailing.  Oracles partnership with Airbus cementing that the race is
more
about getting the boat to "fly" and keeping it there is how you win the
race.  Is it sailing or flying now.  Calls of - enough is enough - bring
back real sailboat racing are becoming louder and louder. Actual crowds
watching are diminishing and TV coverage is almost non-existent - we
watched
the 2 hour segment only available live with no streaming or reruns
yesterday.


I was quickly reminded what radio contesting is starting to become.
If you
want to look into the future of radio contesting, have a look at the
AC.  If
you don't like what you see, especially of you have every sailed or
dreamed
about it, give it some thought before we become the next version of it.


Kudos to NASCAR as an example of drawing the line on it with a - it
still
needs to be car racing attitude.  No shortage of fans there.


73


Ed  N1UR

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