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Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters

To: K1TTT@ARRL.NET, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters
From: W3DMB@aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:59:57 EDT
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You are right Dave, but when I am sailing, it is a rule that Power gives  
way to sail.. and Sail gives way to rowboats. It is not acceptable for  Power 
to run over the canoes and rowboats..  
- but those rules have never applied in my 55 years on the  air.-
Jerry,  _w3dmb@arrl.net_ (mailto:w3dmb@arrl.net) 
"canoe"
 
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In a message dated 4/17/2010 8:43:29 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time,  
K1TTT@ARRL.NET writes:
 
The problem is Pete, that since in our contests all those different entry  
classes are running at the same time on the same lake people get confused 
and  think they are a sailboat competing with a power boat... where the power 
boat  operators usually ignore the slow poke sailboats and just watch each 
other. 
 

David Robbins K1TTT e-mail: _mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net_ (mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net) 
 web: _http://www.k1ttt.net_ (http://www.k1ttt.net)  AR-Cluster node: 
145.69MHz  or _telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net_ (telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net)  
 

-----Original Message----- From: Pete Smith  [mailto:n4zr@contesting.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 10:36 To: CQ Contest  Subject: Re: 
[CQ-Contest] A new "DX cluster" experience for contesters 
 
In the 19th century, mechanical propulsion largely replaced sail as the  
motive power for commercial and military ships.  In the 20th century,  
internal combustion engines and the invention of the outboard motor made it  
possible to dispense with sails and oars on almost all vessels. 
 
Yet sailboats and rowboats persist today, and are a source of great  
pleasure for millions.  Intense and popular competitions among both types  of 
vessel take place frequently and attract millions of enthusiasts  world-wide.  
At the highest level, sailboat competitions such as the  America's Cup 
involve use of extremely advanced technology on the non-propulsive  side of the 
bright line defining the sport. Competitions among powerboats occur  too, from 
small outboards to boats powered by huge gas turbine engines. 
 
I hope my point is obvious. 
 
73, Pete N4ZR 
 

On 4/17/2010 4:00 AM, Christian Schneider wrote: VE5RA wrote: 
 
So begins the 'age of the robots'. 
 
But it will be only one more of those smaller and bigger steps in the  
development - applauded as keeping up with progress and maybe gaining new 
blood. 
 Will it be two or three years that the first M/M-stations "man" their  
160m-station during daylight and 10m during nighttimes with a qso-robot? Or 
 is this already done? Given the ingenuity on the software side it may take 
 "only" some combining of decoding-technology with expanded ESM-routines of 
 existing contest software. Initial stumbling may be irrelanvant with the 
rates  at that time and allow refinement to adjust it for coming things. 
An(y) operator  will be present in a(ny) room there. This becoming more 
widespread it will earn  the ususal criticism by irrelevant small guns refuted 
with 
the argument they  seemingly still want to operate with a straight key. With 
becoming more  widespread even some bigguns may feel bored but won´t dare 
to utter it publicly  in the presence of chestpounding colleagues. Acting may 
begin [IRONY ON] if more  bigguns get fire from XYLs because they 
unintentionally checked the ECAR-box  ("effective contest analyzing routine") 
in 
their software which starts at 0001  after the test and ordered the OH8X` 
3-ele 160m-beam (flawlessly interacting  with the online-banking software) 
because there were three unworked skimmer  spots from Africa on that band. 
[IRONY OFF]. 
 
Disclaimer: This is NO condemning of the technology itself. It is kind of  
sorrow that this blending taking place in smaller and bigger (i.e. skimmer)  
steps changes the flavour of the hobby substantially. At some points of 
blending  wine with pepsi it detracts some from it but of course may attract 
new  consumers. Again: Like skimmer all this is tech-wise interesting and, 
yes, also  fascinating, but at the same time somewhat saddening. Like it or 
leave it, I  know and will do. We´ll only have some rule debate, some rule 
changes and may be  some more retreats as far as "unassisted" is concerned. Not 
much more to do. 
 
Of course you are free to denounce this as "whining" - if you also think  
that a marathon-runner is techwise backwards only because he is fascinated by 
 the techwise less effective way to span 42,5 km. 
 
Best 73, Chris 
 
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