Now... why would one even consider asking the ARRL to comment on the rules,
specifically the use of prefixes, in a CQ Magazine sponsored contest?
I would hope that if someone does ask someone up at League Hq to comment,
their response politely boils down to "it's CQ's contest, ask them."
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of hank k8dd
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:24 PM
To: Sandy Taylor
Cc: David Gilbert; Joe Subich, W4TV; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
On the other hand .......
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=call_signs_1&id=amateur
defines the
prefix's available in the Sequential Call Signs.
Extras - two letter prefix with first letter A, N, K, or W
Advanced - Two letter prefix with first letter K, N, or W
If those prefix's are available, with 1 and 2 letter sufix's for Extra and
Advanced, they
should be available for use as a portable identifier. Unless the ARRL says
not and
then that's the way it is.
73 Hank K8DD
On Feb 7, 2008 12:28 AM, Sandy Taylor <ve4xt@mts.net> wrote:
> What was it Clinton said?
>
> "That depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
>
> Here's the deal: if the FCC's interpretation of its own rules cannot be
> relied upon, whose can?
>
> Also, it is clear in reading the WPX rules, CQ's desire to maintain the
> integrity of WPX multipliers, for both the contest and for the award
> programme.
>
> "You may not make up your own prefix." Seems to clearly say that CQ does
> not
> want stations to manufacture prefixes for the purpose of gaining undue
> popularity. Don has clearly said such is his intent, that NV4 would be
> sexier than W4. No doubt it would.
>
> Paul had commented on my "I'll operate from my cottage and sign VE4XT/XM4"
> as being invalid because XM4 is not designated for amateur service. Well,
> technically, neither is NV4. It is only issued under a vanity call program
> as a 2x1 call and is not, yet at least, part of the normal sequential
> system
> of assigning callsigns to those who don't apply specifically for a vanity
> call. (I looked, if you don't apply under the vanity call program, the FCC
> will merely issue you the next available alphanumeric callsign in sequence
> of normally issued callsigns N4xxx, K4xxx, etc.) You would not, at least
> until the population of W4 expands quadratically, be normally issued
> NV4xxx.
>
>
> 73, Kelly
> Ve4xt
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
> Sent: February-06-08 4:44 PM
> To: 'David Gilbert'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
>
>
> > I don't think that is a valid assumption, Joe.
>
> Well, to further the debate (I am not a lawyer), when a regulatory
> agency makes "law," those rules are included in the applicable
> part of the "Code of Federal Regulations." If the particular rule
> is not published in CFR, it is not "law" but is, by definition a
> staff interpretation. In general, if what one is doing complies
> broadly with the rules as published in CFR, (e.g., using NV4
> instead of W4) and does not specifically violate the rules as
> written, there is no violation of the rule.
>
> If staff and the Commission believe there is substantial good
> reason to require the specific use of "W4" and prohibit the
> use of any alternate form, they can always issue a Notice of
> Proposed Rulemaking and add the specific language to the rules.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:41 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] what PX can I use?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think that is a valid assumption, Joe.
> >
> > 97.119(g) states:
> >
> > "When the station is transmitting under the authority of Sec.
> > 97.107 of
> > this part, an indicator consisting of the appropriate letter-numeral
> > designating the station location must be included before the
> > call sign
> > that was issued to the station by the country granting the
> > license. For
> > an amateur service license granted by the Government of
> > Canada, however,
> > the indicator must be included after the call sign."
> >
> > 97.107 (c) states:
> >
> > "At any time the FCC may, in its discretion, modify, suspend
> > or cancel
> > the reciprocal operating authority granted to any person by
> > this section."
> >
> > The link previously posted here giving specific prefixes for
> > use within
> > the U.S. under reciprocal licensing authority
> > (http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_4&id=ama
> teur#Station%20Indicators)
> is on the official FCC website. You even get a warning notice that you
> are leaving the official Wireless and Telecommunications Bureau site
> when you click on a different link. So how does that become merely a
> non-binding staff interpretation? It's a declaration of an FCC
> requirement, the authority for which they have reserved for themselves
> under 97.107(c).
>
> Dave AB7E
>
> .
>
> Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> > Well, I would argue that the link on the web represents a staff
> > interpretation and not "the law" as written in 97.119(g) since neither
>
> > 97.119(g) nor any other section of Part 97 provides a specific list of
>
> > required identifiers. As such, one could use VO1HE/NV4 and argue that
> > it is perfectly "legal" because there are 31 active licenses with the
> > NV4 prefix (30 of the licenses have mailing addresses in the fourth
> > call area).
> > 73,
> >
> > ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >
> >
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