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Re: [CQ-Contest] cheating with packet

To: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cheating with packet
From: "Trent and Lorraine Sampson" <vk4ti@sampson.net.au>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:03:27 +1000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
 
The other flip to the coin is the ALL ASIAN and others which encourage the use 
of packet in the SOAB categories.

03. ENTRY CATEGORIES:
(1) Single Operator Single Band
a: Asian stations.................High Power, Low Power
b: Non-Asian stations.........High Power only

(2) Single Operator Multi Band
a: Japanese(JA) stations........High Power, Low Power, Junior, Silver
b: Asian stations.......................High Power, Low Power
c: Non-Asian stations...............High Power only

(3) Multi-Operator Single Transmitter(all bands only)

(4) Multi-Operator Multi Transmitter(all bands only)

Note1: Single Operator stations means that one person performs all concerned 
operations during contest period. Use of PacketCluster is permitted.




 Trent and Lorraine Sampson 
| PO Box 1647 | Toowoomba QLD  | 4350| Mobile 0408 497550 
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-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ron Notarius W3WN
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2007 2:06 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cheating with packet

Just a small observation Paul, but while I find your argument very convincing...

Well, a few weeks back as you may recall, I asked the list members for a 
"reality check" to make sure I was doing the right thing by submitting my log 
for a certain state QSO Party as M/S -- since I made extensive use of packet, 
and since this particular contest doesn't have an SOA category.

Although I felt entering M/S was most appropriate (and continue to do so), 
you'd be surprised at how many responses along the lines of "what are you, 
nutz?" I got from contesters who saw nothing wrong with my entering as SO -- 
despite packet use.

So clearly there remains a big difference of opinion, ethics, and philosophy on 
the subject!

73, ron w3wn

-----Original Message-----
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:08:01 -0000
From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane@ei5di.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cheating with packet
To: "'Untitled'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Naumann" <w5ov@w5ov.com>

> In shack spotting by another is multi-op. (More than one operator!)
>
> Using packet is assisted.
>
> Big difference.

Let's try a reality check here.

In-shack spotting consists of real-time acceptance of spotting assistance from 
one or more other operators.
It is indeed multi-op or, more accurately, multi-single.

The use of packet consists of real-time acceptance of spotting assistance from 
one or more other operators.
It is multi-op or, more accurately, multi-single.

There is no difference - apart from the non-issue of the location of the 
additional operators.

"Single op assisted" is a weasel way of describing multi-single by anyone or 
any organisation that prefers to ignore reality.

73,
Paul EI5DI



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