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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRRL SS Club Competition dilemma

To: Gerry Treas K8GT <k8gt@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRRL SS Club Competition dilemma
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:39:16 -0500
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Gerry,

It's not quite that easy. PVRC by-laws require prospective members to
attend two meetings before they can be elected as members of the club
and the contest is tomorrow!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Gerry Treas K8GT <k8gt@arrl.net> wrote:
> Art,
>
> Why not give at least one of the boys a membership in your club?  It might
> further interest, and the may find more friends and mentors.
>
> 73, Gerry, K8GT
>
>
>
>
> On 2012-11-16 10:09, Art Boyars wrote:
>>
>> For a year or two I've been gently mentoring two brothers (now ages 14 and
>> 15) in ham radio, getting to the point where at least one of them is
>> studying the License Manual and hoping to get his ticket.  I had them
>> "operate" at my house last Field Day (hopes for a field station fell
>> apart;
>> planning IS important).  I did the CW myself, and while they were here and
>> awake I control-op'ed so they could make some phone QSOs.  "One Delta,
>> Mike
>> Delta Charlie!"  Fun!  I submitted the log listing the operators as K3KU,
>> Y. Merkin, A. Merkin.
>>
>> I've invited them over for SS Phone.  They have family and school
>> commitments and will be here, if at all, Sunday afternoon/evening.
>>
>> The ARRL's General Rules for Below 30MHz are clear that this would not be
>> Single Op:  "*2.1.Single Operator: *One person performs all transmitting,
>> receiving, and logging functions as well as equipment and antenna
>> adjustments."  Note that it does not say "one [licensed] operator"; it
>> says
>> "one  >>person<<" (emphasis added).  No problem. Since I might well wind
>> up
>> Multi-op, I'll just send Prec "M" from the start.  If the trainees don't
>> show up, I'll submit as Single Op, and send a note to ARRL explaining why
>> I
>> sent Prec M.
>>
>> Here's the dilemma.  I want my score to count for my Club.  But the
>> General
>> Rules say "8.5.2. At least 50% of the operators at a multi-operator
>> station
>> must be eligible members of the club...."   So, if both wannabes show up
>> I'll fall below 50% and may not submit the score for the Club.
>>
>> I asked ARRL HQ (KX9X) about the interpretation of the Rules, and he
>> confirmed what I wrote above.  Then I solicited some local opinion, which
>> generally felt that this interpretation was nor fair, or couldn't
>> be proper.  (There were some suggestions that I could just fudge it, but I
>> want to play by the rules.)  I offer this as a topic for Contest Community
>> discussion.
>>
>> Is the dilemma worth worrying about?  Should the Rules -- for SS; for
>> other
>> Contests -- be changed to allow something like the free GOTA station in
>> FD?  Warning: it might be harder than you think to create a clear rule for
>> that!
>>
>> Special Note to KX9X, if he is monitoring the Reflector:  If the wannabes
>> do count as operators, how come the FD results omitted their names?  (Just
>> joshing, but it might be worth thinking about.)
>>
>> 73, and CU SSPH, Art K3KU
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