Bill,
Thanks for the clarification. Certainly the logging programs should score
each contest correctly. The problem may be that, to my knowledge, the
NAQP and NCJ Sprints are unique in counting states as multipliers but count
DC same as MD. I would think that logging software could accept either DC
or MD but count it as a single multiplier so that the rules (rule 7 in NCJ
Sprints and Rule 10 in NAQP) could be complied with by DC stations and
others could correctly put in their logs what is sent.
73, Dave K3ZJ
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:54 PM, AC0W <ac0w@charter.net> wrote:
> My suggestion on the change in N1MM was made after operating a contest
> that allowed DC as a mult. However, every time I entered DC it was
> automatically changed to MD. This then required a manual edit of the log to
> change it back to DC, which to me is unacceptable. Guess if you think it is
> acceptable to have MD entered for the DC mult then we could ask them to
> change it back.
>
> Bill
> AC0W
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, David Siddall wrote:
>
> OK, let's focus on NAQP as you suggest. You are, after all, one of the
> NAQP managers.
>
>
> In late 2010 or early 2011 W3DQ and others asked the NAQP managers to
> start recognizing that DC is not part of MD. I don't believe that you were
> the NAQP SSB manager at the time, but . . . .
>
> For NAQP, in 2011 the N1MM contest logger suddenly was changed to no
> longer equate DC with MD automatically, like it long had done. Why?
> According to the N1MM website, the reason was that in 2011 you requested
> that the feature be removed from N1MM.
>
>
> This, I take it, was the unofficial NAQP response to Eric's and others'
> request.
>
>
> The result is that DC operators have had to choose between misstating
> their QTH (arguably a violation of NAQP Rule 10 that the exchange must
> consist of "o perator name and station location") OR DC operators had to
> spend an inordinate amount of time during the contest helping some of their
> contacts log the QSO in N1MM, lessening everyone's score in the confusion.
>
>
>
> Nevertheless, in several of the recent NAQPs some of the DC contesters
> have continued to participate, but no one knows because they have to be
> logged incorrectly as being in MD.
>
>
> That's the history of NAQP and DC.
>
>
> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:13 PM, AC0W < *ac0w@charter.net*> wrote:
> Suggest you check the contest rules before throwing a contest into this
> discussion. A check of the NAQP rules has multipliers as provinces, states
> and NA countries outside of US and Canada. The issue of combining Canadian
> provinces to create a multiplier in NAQP does not exist. So it should not
> be part of this discussion.
>
> Bill
> AC0W
>
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Exactly right! Sections as multipliers in SS are consistent, but NAQP and
> Sprint multipliers are inconsistent, illogical, and appear based merely
> upon an individual's (or individuals') whims that lack geopolitical
> reality
> or knowledge with no understanding of incentives.
>
> Being geopolitically consistent and correct -- as are all other contests
> with which I am familiar -- has no downsides.
>
> Take the example of Mexican states, which are multipliers in the 10 meter
> contest. Great! I never hear many of them, but I got educated as to
> their
> political boundaries, any of them that I find helps my score, and there
> are
> more XE stations in the contest than before. I have the same chance of
> finding them as anyone else in my geographic area. There's no downside,
> whether or not they are active most of the time -- and they present
> contest
> expedition opportunities for the adventurous.
>
> D.C. is the same -- what a surprise when W1AW/3 showed up in the last ten
> meter contest in addition to KE3X, N8HM, W3HAC, W3DQ & NN3RP -- all in
> D.C.
>
> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>
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