I do attend the monthly local club meetings AND I even host the annual ARRL
FD exercise at my air conditioned QTH for the local (Non contest club)
I still end up with empty seats during mm contest !!!
I am about to start my move to a new QTH
and am strongly considering building for just me, no extra seats in the
shack, to me that is sad
cheers!
steve
KG5VK
if you want to attract youngsters to the hobby its pretty simple, you have
to invest YOUR time by attending general purpose radio clubs regularly and
inviting younger hams (or any ham with even the slightest interest) in
contesting to take a "seat" at your contest station during an event.
It is not about apps, its about elmering...
73,
Eric NM5M
http://www.dfwcontest.com
http://www.KG5VK.com
My Ham Radio Friends
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 3:59 PM, NM5M via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> If you want to attract youngsters to the hobby its pretty simple, you
> have to invest YOUR time by attending general purpose radio clubs regularly
> and inviting younger hams (or any ham with even the slightest interest) in
> contesting to take a "seat" at your contest station during an event.
>
>
> It is not about apps, its about elmering...
>
>
>
> 73,
>
>
>
> Eric NM5M
> http://www.dfwcontest.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 1. 23rd Annual Dayton Contest Dinner (Tim
> Duffy)
> 2. Where have all the young ones gone? courtesy of Pete Seeger
>
> (Bokverket)
> 3. Re: Where are all the young radiosport folks? (Gerry Treas
> K8GT)
> 4. Re: Where have all the young ones gone? courtesy of Pete
>
> Seeger (Keith Dutson)
> 5. Re: Where are all the young radiosport folks?
>
> (K4XS via CQ-Contest)
> 6. Pile Up Practice Update (Charles
> Sanders)
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> Message:
> 1
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:31:03 -0400
> From: "Tim Duffy" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
> To:
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 23rd Annual Dayton Contest
> Dinner
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> The annual Dayton Contest Dinner will be held
> on Saturday night May 16th at
> the Crowne Plaza in downtown
> Dayton.
>
> Contesters from all over the world will attend.
>
> Master of
> Ceremonies is WWROF Chairman John Dorr, K1AR
>
> Our special guest speaker is
> ARRL President Kay Craigie, N3KN.
>
> CQ Contest Hall of Fame class of 2015 will
> be announced by CQWW Contest
> Director Randy Thompson, K5ZD
>
> Main prize is the
> Icom IC-7600 high performance transceiver (thanks Icom
> America)
>
> All of the
> Dayton contest dinner details are here:
>
> http://contestdinner.com
>
> 73,
> Tim
> K3LR
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr
> 2015 23:10:12 +0200
> From: "Bokverket" <info@bokverket.com>
> To:
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where have all the young ones
> gone? courtesy of
> Pete Seeger
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>
> Reading Colin's post, the ham radio
> contesting community must have made
> some mistake somewhere along the road.
> Where is the prize money? Big outlay
> for antenna farms, a diploma as reward.
> ESports small outlay for the app,
> big rewards in terms of ad money as you are
> watched playing on YouTube,
> sponsors etc.
>
> Ad money goes where the audiences
> are. Of course YouTube and related
> technology was not available "back then",
> but with the fabled inventiveness
> of hams, why didn't we invent it? Like we
> (VE3...) did with the Skimmer,
> DX cluster, repeaters. And seriously, judging
> from some YouTube clips of
> contesters, what's the fun watching someone yelling
> CQ contest and saying
> some strange letters plus typing at a keyboard and
> staring at some dials?
>
> Best,
> reminiscencing,
>
> Goran/SM0DRD
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message:
> 3
> Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 16:44:20 -0400
> From: Gerry Treas K8GT
> <k8gt@mi.rr.com>
> To: Colin Jenkins <colin@ku5b.com>,
> cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where are all the young
> radiosport folks?
> Message-ID: <55380824.10208@mi.rr.com>
> Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> Well, you have to remember
> that Ham Radio was "cutting edge" technology
> for the average public at the
> time of Sputnik (1957). I was licensed in
> 1959 with a large number of
> teenagers that were technologically inclined
> at the time.
>
> Things have
> changed and there are so many other technological fields of
> interest. The
> general public's image of Ham Radio is "old fashioned",
> although we have been
> doing a pretty good job of publicizing amateur
> radio activities over the last
> 15-20 years, but we do need to do more.
> Also demonstrating to kids that we do
> "real time" live contesting.
>
> On the other hand, a long time friend who had a
> Novice license in 1959
> but never upgraded, and is involved with model
> railroading and has held
> offices in the National Model Railrod Association,
> says that they are
> having the same problems recruiting young people. Model
> railroading has
> also kept up with technology with digital control of multiple
> trains all
> on the same track as well as micro cameras installed in the
> trains.
>
> The field of remote control airplanes, cars, boats, etc. has also
> seen
> a large drop off of new members. Most "old style" hobbies have seen the
>
> same drop offs. It's a sign of the times.
>
> But I have participated in
> setting up a station for a school to
> communicate with the ISS. From that we
> had two of the teachers involved
> attend the ARRL Teacher's Institute last
> summer and both now have their
> Technician licenses, and we had 15 students
> sign up as interested in Ham
> radio.
>
> I'm now working with another school in
> the metro Detroit area for a
> contact with the ISS sometime this year, in the
> late fall.
>
> We do have young people entering ham radio and contesting, just
> not
> nearly as many as in the past. I teach a Technician Class license class
>
> in the evening at Lawrence Institute of Technology, but haven't had many
>
> young people in those classes, but in my last class I had a female
> student
> at LTU get her Technician Class license and is now KE8AAA.
>
> So we all need to
> work at it. It is primarily letting them know that
> ham radio exists and all
> the neat "newfangled" and "old fashioned"
> things that we do. Invite some
> young folks out to field day while we
> work other stations via satellite, use
> new digital modes, or use old
> fashioned voice and CW. Show them the fun that
> we have without relying
> on "commercial infrastructure".
>
> 73, Gerry,
> K8GT
>
>
> On 21-Apr-15 23:35, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> > We're here, but most of
> the other younger guys I know don't read or post to
> > CQ-Contest.
> >
> > eSports
> and competitive gaming popularity is growing at great speed. You'll
> > find that
> there are very many games that boast professional groups
> > sponsored by a
> myriad of gaming and eSport companies. Some of the more
> > popular games include
> Counter Strike:GO, World of Warcraft, and League of
> > Legends.Teams like Virtus
> Pro, Cloud9, and Na'vi are professional teams;
> > practicing many hours a day
> and competing on international levels year
> > round. For these gamers, this is
> their job.
> >
> > The difference between these two activities (both of which I
> enjoy
> > immensely) is the level of sponsorship and ability to earn an income
> by
> > playing these games. For example, Twitch allows anyone to stream video
> >
> games live to the entire community. I've seen viewer numbers hit over 100k
> >
> during certain competitive events. Don't get me wrong; I absolutely enjoy
> >
> running pileups, meeting new people at multi-ops, and learning more about
> >
> station engineering but it is merely for my own enjoyment and at my own
> > cost.
> Having the ability to stream and make money from streaming video
> > games is
> becoming increasingly easier (even via mobile devices now).
> >
> > I've struggled
> with how to get younger guys into the hobby for quite some
> > time and don't
> really have a concrete answer (perhaps because there may not
> > be a concrete
> answer), but I think there are more out there than realized.
> > The World Wide
> Young Contesters chat room is quite active during the day
> > with many under 30.
> Heck, even some of the top ops frequent the room.
> >
> > eSports are here to stay
> and only going to grow further with the advent of
> > streaming platforms. I, for
> one, have always enjoyed watching streams from
> > contest stations. Perhaps this
> is something to ponder.
> >
> > Colin KU5B
> >
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> Message:
> 4
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:17:30 -0500
> From: "Keith Dutson"
> <kdutson@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'Bokverket'"
> <info@bokverket.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest]
> Where have all the young ones gone? courtesy
> of Pete Seeger
> Message-ID:
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>
> No mistake in the USA, where making money with
> ham radio is against the law.
>
> I am involved in all sorts of projects to
> enrich ham radio, but rarely find
> ANY ham willing to help. I am always looking
> for a way to turn this
> attitude around.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
>
> -----Original
> Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Bokverket
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 4:10 PM
> To:
> cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where have all the young ones
> gone? courtesy of Pete
> Seeger
>
> Reading Colin's post, the ham radio
> contesting community must have made
> some mistake somewhere along the road.
> Where is the prize money? Big outlay
> for antenna farms, a diploma as reward.
> ESports small outlay for the app,
> big rewards in terms of ad money as you are
> watched playing on YouTube,
> sponsors etc.
>
> Ad money goes where the audiences
> are. Of course YouTube and related
> technology was not available "back then",
> but with the fabled inventiveness
> of hams, why didn't we invent it? Like we
> (VE3...) did with the Skimmer, DX
> cluster, repeaters. And seriously, judging
> from some YouTube clips of
> contesters, what's the fun watching someone yelling
> CQ contest and saying
> some strange letters plus typing at a keyboard and
> staring at some dials?
>
> Best,
> reminiscencing,
>
> Goran/SM0DRD
>
> _______________________________________________
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> list
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> Message:
> 5
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:23:37 -0400
> From: K4XS via CQ-Contest
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re:
> [CQ-Contest] Where are all the young radiosport folks?
> Message-ID:
> <c8926.6e28609d.426a4c59@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
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>
> We're missing one other important component here. Most of
> today's young
> people have been brought up in the "instant gratification"
> world. You have
> to study to get a radio license and it takes time to get
> it.
>
> Not so with gaming. You buy the game and play. Yes, it takes time to
> get
> good at whatever game it is, but there is no initial work and you to get
>
> to play the game immediately. Ham radio is quite different in that
> respect.
>
> K4XS
>
> In a message dated 4/23/2015 10:05:22 A.M. Coordinated
> Universal Tim,
> k8gt@mi.rr.com writes:
>
> Well, you have to remember that
> Ham Radio was "cutting edge" technology
> for the average public at the time of
> Sputnik (1957). I was licensed in
> 1959 with a large number of teenagers that
> were technologically inclined
> at the time.
>
> Things have changed and there
> are so many other technological fields of
> interest. The general public's
> image of Ham Radio is "old fashioned",
> although we have been doing a pretty
> good job of publicizing amateur
> radio activities over the last 15-20 years,
> but we do need to do more.
> Also demonstrating to kids that we do "real time"
> live contesting.
>
> On the other hand, a long time friend who had a Novice
> license in 1959
> but never upgraded, and is involved with model railroading
> and has held
> offices in the National Model Railrod Association, says that
> they are
> having the same problems recruiting young people. Model railroading
> has
> also kept up with technology with digital control of multiple trains all
>
> on the same track as well as micro cameras installed in the trains.
>
> The
> field of remote control airplanes, cars, boats, etc. has also seen
> a large
> drop off of new members. Most "old style" hobbies have seen the
> same drop
> offs. It's a sign of the times.
>
> But I have participated in setting up a
> station for a school to
> communicate with the ISS. From that we had two of
> the teachers involved
> attend the ARRL Teacher's Institute last summer and
> both now have their
> Technician licenses, and we had 15 students sign up as
> interested in Ham
> radio.
>
> I'm now working with another school in the metro
> Detroit area for a
> contact with the ISS sometime this year, in the late
> fall.
>
> We do have young people entering ham radio and contesting, just not
>
> nearly as many as in the past. I teach a Technician Class license class
> in
> the evening at Lawrence Institute of Technology, but haven't had many
> young
> people in those classes, but in my last class I had a female
> student at LTU
> get her Technician Class license and is now KE8AAA.
>
> So we all need to work
> at it. It is primarily letting them know that
> ham radio exists and all the
> neat "newfangled" and "old fashioned"
> things that we do. Invite some young
> folks out to field day while we
> work other stations via satellite, use new
> digital modes, or use old
> fashioned voice and CW. Show them the fun that we
> have without relying
> on "commercial infrastructure".
>
> 73, Gerry,
> K8GT
>
>
> On 21-Apr-15 23:35, Colin Jenkins wrote:
> > We're here, but most of
> the other younger guys I know don't read or post
> to
> > CQ-Contest.
> >
> >
> eSports and competitive gaming popularity is growing at great speed.
>
> You'll
> > find that there are very many games that boast professional
> groups
> > sponsored by a myriad of gaming and eSport companies. Some of the
> more
> > popular games include Counter Strike:GO, World of Warcraft, and League
> of
> > Legends.Teams like Virtus Pro, Cloud9, and Na'vi are professional
> teams;
> > practicing many hours a day and competing on international levels
> year
> > round. For these gamers, this is their job.
> >
> > The difference
> between these two activities (both of which I enjoy
> > immensely) is the level
> of sponsorship and ability to earn an income by
> > playing these games. For
> example, Twitch allows anyone to stream video
> > games live to the entire
> community. I've seen viewer numbers hit over
> 100k
> > during certain
> competitive events. Don't get me wrong; I absolutely enjoy
> > running pileups,
> meeting new people at multi-ops, and learning more about
> > station engineering
> but it is merely for my own enjoyment and at my own
> > cost. Having the ability
> to stream and make money from streaming video
> > games is becoming increasingly
> easier (even via mobile devices now).
> >
> > I've struggled with how to get
> younger guys into the hobby for quite some
> > time and don't really have a
> concrete answer (perhaps because there may
> not
> > be a concrete answer), but
> I think there are more out there than
> realized.
> > The World Wide Young
> Contesters chat room is quite active during the day
> > with many under 30.
> Heck, even some of the top ops frequent the room.
> >
> > eSports are here to
> stay and only going to grow further with the advent
> of
> > streaming
> platforms. I, for one, have always enjoyed watching streams
> from
> > contest
> stations. Perhaps this is something to ponder.
> >
> > Colin KU5B
> >
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> Message:
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> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:20:57 -0500
> From: Charles Sanders
> <no5w.chuck@gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest]
> Pile Up Practice
> Update
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> It's only a few weeks until Dayton and the ever
> popular Saturday night
> KCDXC CW Pile Up Competition.
>
> In case you're feeling
> a little rusty and think a warm-up using past
> competitions would be helpful
> point your browser to the PileUpNet Practice
> page of my web site
> www.no5w.com.
>
> >From there you can download the player application used at
> Dayton along
> with a number of past competitions including two new ones: 2014
> Dayton and
> WRTC 2014. Recent competitions, including those two, support
> playback (in
> Morse Race fashion) of your best efforts against the top operators
> that
> participated in the actual event and allow you to review segments of
> the
> audio where you sprinted ahead or lagged behind the top dogs.
>
> Feel free
> to email off list if you have questions but I will probably be
> incommunicado
> until after this weekend's Florida QSO
> Party.
>
> 73/Chuck/NO5W
>
>
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