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Re: [CQ-Contest] You want instant I. D. s ?

To: n2ic@arrl.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] You want instant I. D. s ?
From: Charles Harpole <hs0zcw@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:26:51 +0700
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Steve, I read 97.119(b)(1) to apply only when using CW Morse to identify.
My GS system would not use Morse, it being too slow.  Likely, the FCC would
want instructions on how to decode what the GS really sends, just like NSA
wants to decode Skype.  In hams case, we would hand over that info gladly.
P.S.  Part 97 only applies to the USA.
73, Charly, titular inventor of the GS identifying system, awaiting
technological development.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com> wrote:

> Buried in the FCC rules is a 20 WPM limit on automatic devices used only
> for identification:
>
> 97.119(b)(1)
>
> (1) By a CW emission. When keyed by an automatic device used only for
> identification, the speed must not exceed 20 words per minute
>
> Since, presumably, the user is also ID'ing on phone, maybe this wouldn't
> apply.
>
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>
>
> On 11/08/2013 05:37 PM, k3it wrote:
>
>> I think this came up before. If a 2m repeater can identify itself with
>> morse code, why can't an SSB operator? One could send a conventional CW CQ
>> every five minutes or so, and takes only about 5 seconds to ID at 40 RPM.
>>   Should be enough to get spotted by RBN.
>>
>> The problem is many skimmers today don't monitor phone segments. And
>> nobody
>> is expecting to see RBN spots there.  But just an idea...:)
>>
>> Vasiliy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:55 AM,<dave@g4buo.com>  wrote:
>>
>>  This would be a multi-mode transmission which, in a single-mode SSB
>>> contest, would get you DQed.
>>>
>>> 73, Dave G4BUO
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message----- From: Charles Harpole
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:06 PM
>>>> To: CQ-Contest Reflector
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] You want instant I. D. s ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems some smart guys, like the skimmer guys or the RBN crowd, could
>>>> come
>>>> up with a sub-audible identifying system that would send the station\'s
>>>>
>>> call
>>>
>>>> sign with each of his transmissions, especially on phone.  Why not?
>>>>
>>>> The receiver has a decoder for that system and reads the call sign on
>>>> his
>>>> monitor or hears it in, gasp, CW as made audible by the system.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest the name of the System be the GS, or Gripe Stopper.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charly, HS0ZCW
>>>>
>>>
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