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Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R

To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:32:43 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
I also don't agree with splitting out the category, however to dismiss it
simply as a learned skill is inaccurate. One must have a SO2R capable
station which takes investment in time and money over a SO1R station.
Usually you have 2x the radios, plus antenna separation (real estate) and
filtering. In contests that allow it, you have two amplifiers as well. This
isn't trivial by any means.

73
Ria, N2RJ



On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:21 AM Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:

> I don't support the notion we should create new categories just because
> some folks have developed a skill the rest of us choose not to.
>
> Harrison Bergeron, a short story by Kurt Vonnegut, explores this issue
> very well.
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 9, 2017, at 23:21, Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The Flex-6700 and 6600 can do that as well but they are marketed as
> > SO2R in a box.
> >
> > The experience with N1MM+ is virtually identical to using two radios.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ria, N2RJ
> >
> >> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:30 PM, John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> And don't forget with the Yaesu FTDX9000 series you can run full
> >> duplex-transmit on one band while listening on another at the same time.
> >> You would still be single op-1 radio, though, because it is only one
> radio.
> >>
> >> 73 John AF5CC
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dave
> >>>
> >>> In answer to your questions
> >>>
> >>> Is a category for number of receivers needed in the world of
> contesting?
> >>>
> >>> No - the name of the event is Contest -
> >>> "an event in which people compete for supremacy in a sport or other
> >>> activity, or in a quality.
> >>> "a tennis contest" synonyms:    competition, match, tournament, game,
> meet"
> >>>
> >>> If we were entering a Radio participation event that would be different
> >>> and everyone can win a Certificate
> >>>
> >>> How are SO1R ops doing in other contests competing against SO2Rs?
> >>> SO2R is dependent on the contest , for a contest rich in activity and
> >>> multipliers eg the CQWPX the advantage is less although it does help
> to be
> >>> able to sample activity on another band
> >>>
> >>> Does not having a "number of receivers" category discourage SO1Rs from
> >>> competing?
> >>> These days - well, since the FT1000D there are plenty of contest ready
> >>> radios that have dual band capability built in and with SDR receivers
> >>> becoming so cheap there is little holding a station back
> >>> At 100 watts the bar to entry to SO2R is very low - split antenna, a
> >>> second radio and some coax stubs, a controller (some can be done in
> >>> software) and away you go.
> >>>
> >>> Are there any contests that have such a category?
> >>> Not that I am aware and to be honest , I feel, we have to many
> categories
> >>> as it stands.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Trent
> >>> VK4TS
> >>> Po Box 275 Mooloolaba QLD 4557
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >>> Dave Edmonds
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 12:43 AM
> >>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
> >>>
> >>> The top 25 players (according to 3830scores.com) in the NAQP CW
> contest
> >>> were running SO2R. Congrats to N9NB a SO1R op who broke the chain of
> SO2R
> >>> scores.. The concern I saw was that there were no SO1R stations
> anywhere
> >>> near the top scores in the NAQP LP category. There was a very wide
> score
> >>> margin between the two types of operation too...
> >>>
> >>> Is a category for number of receivers needed in the world of
> contesting?
> >>>
> >>> How are SO1R ops doing in other contests competing against SO2Rs?
> >>>
> >>> Does not having a "number of receivers" category discourage SO1Rs from
> >>> competing?
> >>>
> >>> Are there any contests that have such a category?
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> 73s Dave WN4AFP
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