What is the bust rate on cut numbers? The issue here is that the sender
is not penalized only the receiver. Is there any way to get metrics on
the number of busted contacts for ops like below that use cut numbers
through the entire serial number?
Have we reached a place where both sides should be penalized?
If enough people that are not really competing just decide to stop
logging these contacts in a large scale would that send a message when
the results come out and they have a pile on NILs. I could argue both
ways about the lack of sportsmanship.
W0MU
On 12/19/2024 8:56 AM, ktfrog007@aol.com wrote:
I once wrote an complaining email to an Eastern European hot shot op
who used cut numbers throughout a serial number contest. He replied
with a detailed estimate of how much time he'd saved during the
contest based on the number of QSOs he had and the frequency of cut
numbers in the digits 0-9. It added up.
There wasn't much I could say to that, except I didn't like it.
73,
Ken, AB1J
On Monday, December 16, 2024 at 07:18:36 PM UTC, Mike Fatchett W0MU
<w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
Not a fan of cut numbers in serial numbers. I doubt any contest sponsor
would attempt to ban the practice. At the expense of your score you
could choose not to log cut number contacts or continually ask for
repeats until real numbers are sent or not.
W0Mu
On 12/16/2024 10:37 AM, jimk8mr--- via CQ-Contest wrote:
> I don't think cut numbers could be outlawed - can you imagine how
that would be enforced?
> I think people overestimate the advantage of using cut serial
numbers. I for one won't start sending my exchange until I've logged
the other guy's number, which in nearly all cases takes as much time
as if the number had been sent uncut. And maybe longer to translate
cut into uncut.
> Tough when back in Ohio W1NN and I enjoy using cut numbers in the
VHF contest, sending "EN NA" back and forth.
>
> 73 - Jim K8MR
>
> On Monday, December 16, 2024 at 12:26:57 PM EST, jpescatore---
via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> A few months ago, after remotely opping OZ5W as part of a MM in the
SAC CW and running into cut numbers in variable serial numbers, I
reached out to the ARRL, WPX and CA QP test to recommend prohibiting
cut numbers in non ST exchange fields.
> Saw them quite a bit in the 10M ARRL this past weekend. I think CQ
WPX CW is next big one with serial number - still time to avoid EE5E
send dit dah dit dah dit dit dit dit dit towards the end of
the weekend...
> The N1MM entry window parser will convert most of the letters if you
type what you hear, but I'd rather see rates increase by higher speed
at both end vs. shorter exchanges. Current rules vary about what
happens if you do submit log with alpha characters in serial number field.
> 73 John K3TN
>
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