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Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 18:11:15 -0500
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Here is a suggestion based on what I know about propagation :

NA #1 - 2 teams - W1/W2 - Maybe separate this into two regions. One for W1 and the other for W2

NA #2 - 1 team - Canada - VE1-VE3, VO1/2, VY2, FP

NA #3 - 1 Team - WV, VA and NC and W3 (remove one team from current rules)

NA #4 - 1 Team  - W8 (OH/MI only), W9, KY, TN

NA #5 - 1 Team - SC, GA, FL, AL

NA #6 - 1 Team - W5 - (TX, LA, AR and MS only)

NA #7 - 1 Team -WA, OR, ID, WY, UT and MT

NA #8 - 1 Team - VE4-VE8, VY1 and KL7

NA #9 - 1 Team - W6, UT, AZ, NV

NA #10 - 1 Team - CO, NM (from W5), NE,ND

NA #11 (New region) - 1 Team -  MO, MN, IA, KS, SD


Jeff



On 1/2/2019 02:22 PM, donovanf@starpower.net wrote:
Its the same situation if you're in Tennessee or Kentucky competing
against Delaware. You're only hope is to guest or remote operate
from much further east.


Under these rules, you're only hope for being selected as a Team Leader is to:


- own, guest op or remote operate a SOHP SO2R mega-station in a
favorable location for DX contests, or


- find a guest operator opportunity at a somewhat less capable SOHP
station in the less competitive selection areas (you can figure out
which ones they might be...).


- perhaps compete in the still-undefined WRTC-Style MS or M2 category


As everyone knows or should know -- contest rules are not, never
have been, and can never be completely fair. You make whatever
adjustments you can to improve your capabilities and your set realistic
goals. Most importantly enjoy yourself, if you can't do that you're
in the wrong game.


73
Frank
W3LPL

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From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
To: "Karel Matousek" <ok1cf@atlas.cz>
Cc: "Rastislav Hrnko" <om3bh@centrum.sk>, k5zd@charter.net, "Contest Reflector" 
<cq-contest@contesting.com>, "Mats Strandberg" <sm6lrr@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:34:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

And Minnesota is in the same group with West Virginia.

Did they just throw darts at a map?

73, de Hans, K0HB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™








On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 09:28 Karel Matousek <ok1cf@atlas.cz> wrote:

Hi,

UA6 it is a completely different world than here in central Europe. I
cannot believe that someone could invent such stupidity and put OK/OM and
UA6 into one group. I agree with Rasta OM3BH.



Karel OK1CF/OK5W
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Datum: 02.01.2019 14:16
Předmět: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

Hi guys,

Does anyone have a worse idea to include UA6 region together with OK, OM
etc.... ??? Why not with UA9 ...?
It would never have occurred to me.


73 HNY Rasťo OM3BH
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cq-contest@contesting.com'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Dátum: 02.01.2019 07:24
Predmet: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

It is up to the organizers, but in the past, this only meant that all
single band scores were compared to the all band scores. Not that a
single band entry could win and get the full qualifying points unless
their score was higher than the top all band entry.
It is possible in a contest like WPX for a single band entry to have a
higher score than the all band entries. In this case, it makes sense
that the single band entry would get the full qualifying points. But,
in most cases, it will be the all band score that sets the standard.

Regardless of the past, you are correct that the rules as written do
not specify this clearly.
Randy K5ZD

-----------------------------------------From: "Mats Strandberg"
To: cqtestk4xs@aol.com
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday January 1 2019 9:30:11AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

Bill,

Exactly the same struck me...

A station with a decent antenna for any single band, can quite easily
reach
Full Score in 12 contests, while the very skilled SO2R All Band
operator,
quite easily can end up not on full score in some of the contests,
due to
much higher competition, with the result that the Single Band guy can
grab
that TL ticket quite easily.

Or Bill, do we both miss something in the “small text” of the
rules?

73 de RM2D, Mats

On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 16:03, Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:

A couple of things popped out at me.
If I read the rules correctly:
Single band entries count the same as all band entries...big
problem.
Station VP5XYZ operates with a smallt station on a band from which
there
are usually not any single band efforts...160 or 10. He operates
for a
couple of hours and winds up with 30 or 40 Qs. VP5ABC does AB and
makes
7000 Qs but finishes nr 2 for his area. VP5XYZ gets more WRTC
credit than
the guy who busted butt for 40+ hours at VP5ABC. This could happen
in many
of the qualifying areas.
In qualifying zones which are sparsely populated, what happens if
no one
gets 25% of the top operator's score...no one goes from that
district?
Bill KH7XS/K4XS

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