Layer 3 is routing
It was pretty clear to me once I understood that I created each network
and specifieds its interface.
It was similar to creating "secondary" networks on cisco routers
> -----Original Message-----
> I don't see how understanding layer 2 and 3 has anything to do with
> understanding the routing config interface for Karlnet. For example,
how
> does knowing routing/bridging protocols make it easier to understand
what
> "preferred ip address" is referring to? Is it clear what interface
this
> is
> supposed to be? Or that you must specify the _ip_ of the 'remote'
> interface
> instead of the network number. Or that you actually have to include a
> route
> which specifies the ip of the local interface even though the default
> gateway is specified elsewhere. I don't have any problems configuring
> routing using Karlnet now, but I had to ask Charles a lot of questions
in
> the beginning to get these kinds of things answered.
>
> Am I wrong about this?
>
> --
> Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301
> 970-749-2711 http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
On
> Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:39 PM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
>
>
> Well granted not everything is "clear" with karlnet, if you understand
> layer
> 2 and layer 3 protocol configuration on network devices like linux,
> solaris,
> cisco, (windows), you can configure "karlnet" with out too much effort
>
>
> Dan Metcalf
> Wireless Broadband Systems
> http://www.wbsysnet.com/
> 877-685-0578
> dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:16 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> >
> > Once again Charles, this support _has nothing to do with the
> hardware_.
> > It
> > has to do with Karlnet's convoluted and undocumented software. We
are
> > paying a lot for the software and that is what entitles us to this
> > support, not the hardware. If Karlnet knew how to write a routing
> > interface
> GUI or
> > give a good command line interface, you would likely not have to
spend
> > this much time on support. Blame Karlnet for your support costs.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301 970-749-2711
> > http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Charles Chia Sheng Wu
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> >
> >
> > >No, in my opinion, which comes from 30 years of being in business,
> not
> > >one supplier on this or any other related list, has a clue of how
to
> > >make it
> > big
> > >and control a market.
> >
> > >Let me relate a story which I have experienced:
> >
> > >Several years ago I knew a man who started buying plastic beads and
> > >doll heads in Asia to resell to distributors and retailers in the
US.
> >
> > yes...but how much support does a plastic bead and doll head
require?
> >
> > did your friend have people calling him everyday, 24x7x365, asking
him
> how
> > to put beads on dolls, or how to assemble his doll heads, or why
> doesn't
> > his
> > doll head do this? or that?
> >
> > >The man's philosophy of pricing his product was simple: "make a
> LITTLE
> > >BIT on everything you sell, then SELL THE HELL out of it"
> >
> > yes...but COGS consists of a lot more than just the cost of the
> product
> > and
> > shipping, what about support, R&D, etc...
> >
> > >3 years later, this man was the largest importer in the entire
Great
> > >Lakes Area (yes, including Chicago...).
> >
> > good for him
> >
> > >The man wasn't trying to make 25-50-75% over his total cost on an
> item.
> > >He worked on a 4-8% net margin.
> >
> > lemme tell you, I am no where close to 25% gross margins
> >
> > but you're friend didn't have any support costs...
> >
> > Jim, think about it, several months ago, you decided to convert your
> > network from a bridged network to a routed network, do you remember
> > who wrote
> out
> > your ENTIRE CONFIG
> >
> > and what did I charge you??? $0?
> >
> > what would you have paid to hire someone w/ a CCIE
> >
> > -Charles
> >
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