Yikes. Talk about being "unplugged"!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> John,
>
> We have spoken with them on many occasions.
>
> Actually, it was a VP of Intel that DID NOT BELIEVE me when I told him
that
> people were using 802.11 outdoors. This conversation took place last
> December at 802.11 Planet. He asked what Karlnet did, and when I told
him,
> his exact quote was "you mean people are using 802.11 outdoors?"
>
> Kinda scary that they are "leading" the wireless investments lately.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of John Scrivner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
>
>
> Why don't you guys call Intel and let them pay you to design the perfect
> hardware? They want software based radios. You guys do radio software.
> What could be better?
> Scriv
>
>
> Kevin Knuth wrote:
> >
> > Norm,
> >
> > The problem with 900Mhz is that there are no radios available.
Remember-
> > KarlNet does not make radios! We use "off the shelf" radios and enhance
> > their performance.
> >
> > However, Teletronics has a 2.4Ghz to 900Mhz converter. If we could get
> the
> > price down, that might work out.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:01 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> >
> > Thanks...I think I'll do just that. I'll probably upgrade an existing
> > AP-1000 running base (one interface PtP backhaul, the other PtMP) to
> > flashrom (two interfaces running PtMP and one PtP backhaul), and later
> > upgrade the PtP interface from 2.4GHz to ~5GHz, to accommodate more
> > throughput. I could also see a use for yet another flashrom to run a
5GHz
> > PtMP AP,at the same WIPOP , to offer a business-grade/power-user service
> > level going forward. Any chance we could see a 900MHz radio version in
> the
> > future for those hard-to-reach places?
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > To: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegatebroadband.net>; "Karlnet Mailing
List"
> > <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> >
> > > Most likely.
> > >
> > > Unless there is some bizarre conflict with the motherboard and the
> radio,
> > > which I would think unlikely.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:48 PM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > >
> > >
> > > So, would there be a good chance that the purchase of a flashrom base
> now,
> > > could be upgraded to a version that supports the Atheros chip set
later?
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > > To: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegatebroadband.net>; "Karlnet Mailing
> List"
> > > <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:34 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > >
> > >
> > > > Norm,
> > > >
> > > > At some point we think that is the case- but we have not tested that
> > yet!
> > > >
> > > > The limit will be a total of 3 wireless interfaces, with the last
> > > interface
> > > > reserved for the Ethernet with EPROM on it.
> > > >
> > > > The initial product will probably be a 2 port FlashROM with a single
> > radio
> > > > card (and the second port is for the Ethernet!) This just gets us
> > quicker
> > > > time to market.
> > > >
> > > > Other variations will follow.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:32 PM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Does this mean that with a flashrom MB and say, three interfaces, we
> > could
> > > > incorporate a ~5 GHz backhaul, and say, two (or three?) 2.4GHz PtMP
> > > > interfaces?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Norm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > > > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 1:04 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This straight from engineering:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Atheros chip set supports "Extended 802.11a tuning range:
> 4.900 -
> > > > > 5.850 GHz" (from their web sight). We don't make the radios, but
> > > > > Atheros has said that they support this range. Doug Karl agrees.
> > > > >
> > > > > So that should do it! We should be in BETA with 5Ghz in the next
> few
> > > > weeks,
> > > > > and if tests go well we can pick an antenna and certify it!
> > Preliminary
> > > > > tests- MEANING IN OUR OFFICE WITH NO LOSS AND NO TREES, etc, - we
> did
> > > > better
> > > > > than 27Mbps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Giger
TGC
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:32 AM
> > > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] The 5 GHz product
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin, here we go again :)
> > > > >
> > > > > > However, our initial offering
> > > > > > of a 5Ghz product will be based on the FlashROM.
> > > > > ----^^^^^^^
> > > > >
> > > > > This is always very interesting b/c everybody needs more channels
> and
> > > less
> > > > > interference.
> > > > >
> > > > > The FCC has recently announced plans to open the 5.475 - 5.725 GHz
> > > > spectrum
> > > > > for outdoor WLANs with 30 dBm (- 6db TPC) and automatic frequency
> > > > selection
> > > > > - just the same as in ETSI regulated countries.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm afraid you're 5 GHz product will not be for this range but 5.2
> or
> > > 5.8
> > > > > GHz instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nevertheless, please let us know more about the spectrum (range,
> > number
> > > of
> > > > > channels, etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > --
> > > > > true global communications GmbH
> > > > > Thomas Giger
> > > > > In der Au 27, 61440 Oberursel, Germany.
> > > > > fon +49.6171.63810 fax +49.6171.638119
> > > > > X-NCC-RegID: de.tgc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Kevin Knuth [mailto:kknuth@karlnet.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 4:57 PM
> > > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Need a FlashROM base
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently KarlNet does not ship FlashROM units as complete
> > > > > > systems, only the
> > > > > > FlashROM modules for you to build your own. However, our
> > > > > > initial offering
> > > > > > of a 5Ghz product will be based on the FlashROM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Steve Deaton
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:03 AM
> > > > > > To: travis@netwaveinternet.com; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Need a FlashROM base
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From what I understand Karlnet does not certify any FlashROM
> > > > > > units for
> > > > > > several reasons. One is because they do not manufacture
> > > > > > them. Another
> > > > > > reason is that they do not want to support them. We manufacture
> > > > > > FlashROM units and will warranty them against hardware
> > > > > > defects. I could
> > > > > > have three units shipped out very soon. If you are interested
in
> > > > > > pricing please let me know. Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Deaton
> > > > > > IT Director
> > > > > > Texas Broadband, Inc.
> > > > > > (888)868.3835 ext 85 (office)
> > > > > > 979.289.0148 (office)
> > > > > > 979.289.5117 (fax)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > travis-lists@netwaveinternet.com
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:08 PM
> > > > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] Need a FlashROM base
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need three pre-built, "Karlnet certified" FlashROM bases with
> > three
> > > > > > wireless interfaces each, preferably built on ~1 GHz boards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone sell them that can give me a price off-list? I need them
> > soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Travis
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > ================================
> > > > > > M. Travis Brown, MCSE
> > > > > > Network Systems Engineer
> > > > > > NetWave Internet
> > > > > > 434.386.0656
> > > > > > travis@netwaveinternet.com
> > > > > > ================================
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