I'll 2nd that. Spending money....shipping both ways (when the unit doesn't
work) and my time to test something that is broken off the bat IS VERY
FRUSTRATING!@
-bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Scrivner" <john@scrivner.com>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> Kevin,
> You guys better cook a few of these boards up for everyone to see at
> WISPCON. Shipping boards that fry in the heat can cause some
> credibillity problems. I want to buy these. I won't until I am convinced
> they will be reliable.
> Scriv
>
>
> Kevin Knuth wrote:
>
> >Caleb,
> >
> >The heat issue caused memory to be corrupted and therefore the unit
> >would fail. It is a PoE issue only, straight power did not seem to
> >cause the issue. Small percentage is a little harder: My BEST GUESS is
> >less than 20% of the boards we sold have the issue, and frankly, if you
> >are in a cooler climate, it will probably not affect you at all. The
> >issue seemed to cause issues in MO, OK, and TX for the most part.
> >
> >This is a well known issue, it has been discussed on the lists quite a
> >bit. I am sorry you feel left in the dark!
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >**************************************
> >Kevin R. Knuth
> >Business Development Manager
> >North America
> >260-424-9690 Regional Office
> >614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> >kknuth@karlnet.com
> >www.karlnet.com
> >**************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
> >Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:48 PM
> >To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >
> >
> >Kevin,
> >
> >What exactly is the "heat issue" and "corruption issue"? Is this a PoE
> >issue only? voltage related issue only? Please, explain this fully.
> >Also, is there any way to identify the small "percentage" of boards that
> >are going to have this issue?
> >
> >I hate being left in the dark about issues that Karlnet knows about.
> >(I'm sure there are more known issues than just this one) If there is
> >an issue, why not inform everyone about the issue instead of keeping it
> >a big secret and pissing everyone off?
> >
> >
> >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> >On 2003-Oct-17 at 12:30 AM Kevin Knuth wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Well, we do use a fan in our indoor enclosure!
> >>
> >>But we have solved the heat issue by SPEEDING UP the processor and
> >>SLOWING DOWN the memory. The memory was overheating and that
> >>apparently caused the corruption issue.
> >>
> >>All the boards we are shipping now have been modified to fix this
> >>issue. If you have a board that you would like to switch out, we can do
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>so for you. HOWEVER- the board you get will be a refurbished board.
> >>And if you have not yet had heat problems, you may never! Only a
> >>percentage of the boards were affected at all.
> >>
> >>Kevin
> >>
> >>**************************************
> >>Kevin R. Knuth
> >>Business Development Manager
> >>North America
> >>260-424-9690 Regional Office
> >>614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> >>kknuth@karlnet.com
> >>www.karlnet.com
> >>**************************************
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Norm Young
> >>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:42 PM
> >>To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>
> >>
> >>Use a fan.
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Jon Loosle" <web@s1i.net>
> >>To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:38 PM
> >>Subject: Re[2]: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>
> >>
> >>How was the head issue resolved?
> >>
> >>*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >>
> >>On 10/16/03 at 5:23 PM Bob Hrbek wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>It's all the communication that Karlnet does....it just got lost...I'm
> >>>sure.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>;)
> >>>
> >>>-bob
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> >>>To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> >>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:16 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>All,
> >>>>
> >>>>I thought the word was already out- the heat issue is resolved.
> >>>>Voltage is still important, as it applies to PoE applications.
> >>>>
> >>>>I have documents that tell you the actual voltage you will need for
> >>>>various lengths of CAT5 runs of PoE. Offlist if you want those.
> >>>>
> >>>>Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>>**************************************
> >>>>Kevin R. Knuth
> >>>>Business Development Manager
> >>>>North America
> >>>>260-424-9690 Regional Office
> >>>>614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> >>>>kknuth@karlnet.com
> >>>>www.karlnet.com
> >>>>**************************************
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:18 AM
> >>>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes I have seen heat issues w/ the WPBase boards as well, voltage is
> >>>>important and proper heat sinks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Behalf Of Nate McLain
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:08 PM
> >>>>>To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>>>>
> >>>>>mainly heat issues with the WPBase boards..
> >>>>>Or just general lockup problems with them no matter what version
> >>>>>of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>KN
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>have on it.
> >>>>>The reliability just isn't there with the boards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have used the UBICOM units but I hate the fact that you can't
> >>>>>get
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>them via the configurator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>We are moving towards Waverider on about all of our new wipops.
> >>>>>But
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>we
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>will still use KN on our existing KN network.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> >>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:33 AM
> >>>>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> >>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>What types of issues are you having w/ the WPBase boards (you
> >>>>>using orinocco radio's?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The kn50 is a ubicom system
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Behalf Of Nate McLain
> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:18 AM
> >>>>>>To: Karlnet Mailing List
> >>>>>>Subject: RE: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Does the radio function any better then the WPBase boards?? We
> >>>>>>haven't had anything but problems with those boards... Are they
> >>>>>>using the same radio board or are they a ubicom based
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>radio?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Nate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> >>>>>>[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:13 AM
> >>>>>>To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> >>>>>>Subject: [Karlnet] new karlnet units
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I recently had a chance to look at the new kn-50 embedded
> >>>>>>antennas
> >>>>>>setup, and I was very impressed with the entire system, from
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>hardware,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>to software, and onboard speaker with "audio" alignment
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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