We have also dealt with the struggle of CPE equipment, moving from the
original ap-1000 or apple airport based solutions to riding the rocky
road of indoor NDIS based units (buffalo etc), internal NDIS clients
(PCMCIA host controller and NDIS drivers direct in the PC), and now into
the KN-50 and KN-100 (105) based solutions. It seems over the last two
years Karlnet has been changing quite a bit both in hardware and in
internal policy. There is one important note however, "US" the ISP's
that use there equipment have been driving these changes. Karlnet has
driven the cost of a reliable CPE down to the $250.00 range with there
19db integrated unit. That?s impressive considering the alternatives.
Right now we are running over 300 subscribers from Karlnet based
ISP based units all over our area. Are clients consist of primarily
KN-50 based units. Ironically we are using YDI 5.3/5.8 ghz based
bi-directional backhaul as well. We are performing at around 1200k to
each and every subscriber (and we could do more if we wanted to). That
is an impressive accomplishment and we could not do it without Karlnet
and there design. Most importantly there flexibility, all of our
mountain sites are noisy (excluding one) with other 2.4 and "close to
frequency" dirty transmitters from the licensed 1.6 - 1.9 transmitters
as well. If it was not for the flexibility (that canopy and many others
do not provide) we would not be able to perform in these conditions. The
added routing features enable us to accommodate point to point services
for remote businesses; the multiple interfaces allow us to create backup
wireless segments that automatically take over traffic in an outage
situation. The command line options for unit configuration allow us to
create automatic configuration scripts to reload settings to CPE's as
well as mountain sites automatically. The RADIUS support allows us to do
just about anything with billing we can imagine. Then there is the MIB's
for the karlnet units themselves (with a little time and energy) we have
created our own alert system for low signal, outages, or slow
performance notifications. Our entire system is automated end to end
where we can support all 300 subscribers with little overhead.
Then there is the new beta version of firmware for the KN-50
units that KN development team is working on (version 1.2) that allows
support for Prizm based cards. This allows us to use higher power SMC
based (100mw) cards inexpensively in our CPE's (currently beta testing
20 mixed between all of our sites) this absolutely leaps ahead of the
competition extending the reach and overall reliability of the link. So
far the beta testing has been rock solid with 4 9's uptime.
All I can say is I appreciate what Karlnet has done. They have
"listened" to what we as ISP's want and are working to get it to us.
Thank you Karlnet
Timothy J. Steele
tsteele@e-isco.com
(541) 883-3565
Fax (541) 883-1412
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1. Re: What are we all going to do for CPE's? (Norm Young)
2. AW: [Karlnet] RE: Most stable 4.x? was Re: What
areweallgoingtodoforCPE's? (Horst Kubanik)
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:57:09 -0700
From: "Norm Young" <lists@applegatebroadband.net>
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] What are we all going to do for CPE's?
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Yes, after all the negativity, I too, like the KN-50 solutions,
especially
that coupled with the 19dB panel. It works well, it's very easy to
deploy....and it's much cheaper than anything I can get my hands on
(without
buying in quantities of 2500!). I've been looking at some other
solutions
for 5.8GHz, some that employ CDMA/802.16 for a more robust and scaleable
solution to deliver higher bandwidths to more customers (AirSpan), but
for
our 2.4 deployment, I think we'll stay with KN. I hope for only the
best
from the YDI/Karlnet merger.
Norm
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From: "Brett Hays" <bretth@htonline.net>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] What are we all going to do for CPE's?
> I want to apologize for setting off such a mess. I was simply
informed
> by my vendor that I would no longer be able to obtain the Karlnet CPE
> packages from them that I am accustomed to using because Karlnet was
> 'discontinuing sales of the board only products' that their package is
> based on, ie the KN-50.
>
> I have had good luck with Karlnet products, and with my vendor, in
the
> past couple of years and am happy to continue using their products,
just
> was concerned, still am, as to availability of a sub $300 CPE
solution.
> The KN-50's have been the most stable and best CPE we have used and I
> would like to continue deploying the same.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nenad Orlic" <internet@madnet.co.yu>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] What are we all going to do for CPE's?
>
>
> > >Great. We may just drop Karlnet altogether.
> >
> > We allready did that and moved to products of other
manufacturers....
> > Endless problems that are never resolved and tech support that is
> allways
> > supprised, sometimes even with features that their products have but
> they
> > did not know about. Karlnet does not have a stable product for two
> years!!!
> > What can i do with pooling if it has high latency, hangs the station
> and
> > works slower than 802.11b??? We are using all Karlnet stations
without
> > pooling! And recently we downgraded firware on some of PtP links to
> get them
> > working!
> >
> > Not to mention frauds made by one of their main distribution
> partners - CW
> > Labs, that never got sanctioned and maybe even supported.
> >
> > Karlnet is dead. As a company and as a product. It was just a matter
> of time
> > with the quality/price ratio they were giving for the last year or
> two.
> >
> > greetings, Nenad
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:30:52 +0200
From: "Horst Kubanik" <rave@nanet.at>
Subject: AW: [Karlnet] RE: Most stable 4.x? was Re: What
areweallgoingtodoforCPE's?
To: <blair@wmwisp.net>, "'Karlnet Mailing List'"
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Hi!
Is there a problem with different RG1000 also?
Never heared about different RG platform's, but...
... some go well whith 4.45, others don't.......
Think I forget 4.45 and wait.....
Horst
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Von: Blair Davis [mailto:blair@wmwisp.net]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Juni 2004 17:33
An: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Betreff: [Karlnet] RE: Most stable 4.x? was Re: What
areweallgoingtodoforCPE's?
For the 3.20 hardware, you don't go past the 4.44-02 load.
For the 3.70 hardware you can go to 4.45 load.
Per Ed at support, (about 5 min ago), the issue with the 3.20 hardware
is being worked on, but, there is no new progress to report.
I hope it is fixed soon, myself......
I ran into problems with it, but, I never upgrade my remote locations
til I have the same hardware working with the new flash at a local
location easy to get to.....
Blair Davis
West Michigan Wireless ISP
269-686-8648
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