Here are some pictures of the Karlnet stuff that was at WISPCON II.
http://www.natronics.net/coolpics/wispcon2/monday/karlnethog1.JPG
http://www.natronics.net/coolpics/wispcon2/monday/karlnetprototype1.JPG
http://www.natronics.net/coolpics/wispcon2/monday/karlnetprototype2.JPG
http://www.natronics.net/coolpics/wispcon2/monday/karlnetprototype3.JPG
And here is a picture of Doug & Kevin!!!
http://www.natronics.net/coolpics/wispcon2/monday/karlnetgeeks.JPG
You guys do a great job Doug!!
Keep up the good work!
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:17 PM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
Doug, are you telling me that KN TC will be available on the WET11?
If so, that's great!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> Yes this is what is happening right now. Turbocell works on the hardware
> and we need to get the configurator and license it site ready. And of
> course work with some OEMs to make it a finished product with antennas,
> cables, etc.
>
> There are other hardware platforms that work with our software also.
Check
> with some of the resellers on the list for these platforms.
>
> Doug
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:42 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> >
> >
> > How about a version of the SR-4000 that ran on the WET11 (a Ubicom?
> > processor), and perhaps others (more Ubicom processor-based devices?)
for
> > right around $30? That would, for instance, put the cost of my CPE
> > installation right around $300. This would be helpful in selling the
> > service (and KN licenses).
> >
> > If the WET11 could be bought in quantity for less than $100, so much the
> > better.
> >
> > I bought into KN with the idea that I would have the flexibility
> > to surf the
> > hardware economies of scale created by 802.11b deployment.
Unfortunately,
> > it has been as good a wave as I originally thought it would be, in part
> > because the only off the shelf CPE choice (for anyone that wanted a
> > stand-alone network interface radio/SBC) has turned out to be the
RG-1100,
> > and only the RG-1100. A pretty nice piece of hardware from a
reliability
> > standpoint, it just hasn't declined in price much, I suspect,
> > because those
> > selling it know that it's part of a required piece for outdoor wireless
> > networks. Its not, unfortunately, like we can select a Dlink, or
> > Linksys AP
> > and substitute it in. (And maybe we don't want to...again, the
> > reliability
> > of the RG can not be underrated.)
> >
> > Doug, is it possible for KN to aggregate the purchases of the RG to get
a
> > price on just the bare board? I've heard some talk about really high
> > numbers in order to get some consideration for an order right from the
> > factory.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@jagwireless.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> >
> >
> > > Well, what I was talking about was a radio in a NEMA box w/ karlnet
for
> > > around $200. If you could get it down lower...I think you would be
the
> > envy
> > > of all.
> > >
> > > But, I'm sure you already know this.
> > >
> > > -Bob
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:04 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Who says were not looking at WET11? :)
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > > > To: Orinoco@part-15.org; karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] Re: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm with ya Norm. The WET11 is just lurking in the back of my
mind
> > and
> > > > > killing me. I think Karlnet could really clean-up if they had a
> > better
> > > > > solution of everything in one and at a decent (**hack**
> > > > > affordable) price.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've even been looking at the trango stuff. They just lowered
> > > > > their prices.
> > > > > $495 for the 3-mile SU from trango and it's 8MB!!! with polling
> > > > > and cir/mir
> > > > > settings...all kinds of goodies with the standard PoE and all.
> > > > > only 3 miles
> > > > > though :( The 10-mile su is a big bigger and I think it was 595.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Bob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Norm Young" <npyoung@applegator.org>
> > > > > To: <Orinoco@part-15.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:06 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Orinoco] KN CPE cost...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm charging $400 for a KN CPE installation, and while I had an
> > > initial
> > > > > > burst of signups (the hard core enthusiasts), that has now
> > > > > faded away. I
> > > > > > am, however, gettting calls from people that say they'd
> > love to have
> > > our
> > > > > > service, they just can't swallow that $400 install. Of that
$400,
> > the
> > > > > > biggest elements are; 1- $135 for the RG-1100, 2-$70 for the
> > > > > 24dB antenna
> > > > > > (all our shots are over 5 mi.), and $65 for KN SOHO (SR-4000).
> > > > > Recently,
> > > > > > by getting pigtails from Allcom, and some reductions in cost on
> > > > > some other
> > > > > > elements, I've been able to get my cost for equipment for
> > a typical
> > > > > install
> > > > > > down in the $350 region. I'd like to see it go further. My
goal
> > is
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > able to offer a $299 install. On another mailist, a
> > member has been
> > > > > saying
> > > > > > that he's designing a board to replace the RG-1100 for around
$80
> > > > > > (Bluewire).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be nice if KN would reduce their price on the
> > > > > SR-4000, realizing
> > > > > > that at least in my case, I'm using it to go after resi/SOHO
> > > > > clients that
> > > > > > are quite price sensitative. Since the product is
> > software that is
> > > > > > electronically delivered, say, a halving of the price would, in
my
> > > > > opinion,
> > > > > > lead to more than a doubling in demand, and since there is no
> > > > > incremental
> > > > > > cost to doing this, the result would be more profit for KN.
> > > > > Consider the
> > > > > > alternatives. More and more WISPs are looking at complete
> > > > > solutions like
> > > > > > Motorola's Canopy system with a CPE cost of $515 in
> > one-off prices.
> > > On
> > > > > the
> > > > > > low-end, there seem to be a number of WISPs using
> > Starlink or other
> > AP
> > > > > > software, and the Linksys WET11 ($105) in a plain-jane 802.11b
> > > network.
> > > > > > (total 802.11b CPE cost for us: $260)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My choice is to sit here, wait for Verizon to come in with DSL
> > > > > (and a free
> > > > > > CPE) while waiting for KN CPE prices to decline, or take
> > action, and
> > > go
> > > > > with
> > > > > > 802.11b right now, and get the customers while the
> > getting is good.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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