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Subject: Re: [RFI] Grow-lights -->Here<--
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 06:11:02 -0700
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Hi Dave,

THANK YOU for the idea of including the track data and maps in our
contact letters!!!  I will start doing that. 
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On Sat, 2014-03-29 at 21:48 -0700, David Mulvey wrote:
> Here is a simple idea:
> 
> If you're convinced there's something illegal going on in the 
> noise-source-house, being a mile away, if you mail them a letter without a 
> return address (or use the local dog catcher address), they should not 
> suspect you sent it.  Give them the data you collected, list the RFI rules 
> that are being broke (intentionally or not), and let them know the pending 
> search party by the FCC/PoPo.  Give them a few ideas on how to correct the 
> noise themselves.  Give them time so they don't panic and shoot the next guy 
> with an antenna on their house.  Assume they will want to correct their silly 
> mistake of advertising that they have a grow house in the hood.  Give them a 
> copy of your Google Map with the Pin on the noise source.  Tell them how to 
> use a cheap shortwave/AM radio to verify the noise source and how to verify 
> their corrective measures.
> 
> Continue reading at your own risk (gun talk):
> 
> I'd buy a gun and keep it close anyway.  The police/sheriff can only 
> guarantee they will be there later to do the paperwork if something bad 
> happens, unless you work with them in advance...
> 
> Also, the feds can't even build a website.   There is little reason to expect 
> they would accommodate a few hams that sit in their basement for 36 hours 
> with an hour break for air : )
> The ARRL is the better way, but as an ARRL member, and being that you know a 
> thing or two about finding noise, you could be that ARRL guy that works for 
> free whenever the city gets a call when somebody's TV goes out.  I'm not 
> mocking this idea, but get friends together and form a team to find noise.  
> See if the local club has an interest in assisting the local city.  That 
> should earn some City-Mayor-Points for later when field day comes around.
> 
> Dave KD6BZN
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Cole
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:39 PM
> To: Michael Coslo
> Cc: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Grow-light..
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> It is not like that...  Lets say you tag a grow operation 1 mile from you, 
> and you don't know it is a grow operation, but you suspect it is.  
> 
> It and you live in a decent part of town...  You discover that it is a grow 
> as you knock on the door, and a thug answers.  You have the instant danger of 
> being harmed, then lets say you leave unharmed...  
> 
> You turn them in to the FCC.  The FCC then sends them a letter, with your 
> name and address on it...  The ham can live in a nice save area, far from the 
> bad side of town and is still put at risk...  This is not right...  That is 
> my point.  
> 
> Please consider signing the petition at 
> 
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> 
> On Sat, 2014-03-29 at 09:55 -0400, Michael Coslo wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 2014, at 12:16 AM, KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > : That is not really a good idea...  What if you are wrong?
> > > 
> > > Would the DEA and ATF bother to show up if they didn't have enough 
> > > evidence gathered on their own?
> > 
> > Yes. Not only that, there have been cases where they have gone in to the 
> > wrong house . Killed innocent people. Killed their pets. That could be your 
> > house.
> > 
> > > 
> > > From our viewpoint, RFI, blacked out windows, stoners and various 
> > > losers hanging around 24/7, et c., et c, "wonder if I should call?”.
> > 
> > 
> > Who ya gonna call?
> > 
> > If you have any sense of danger, you are going to call a moving company. 
> > Pronto.
> > 
> > Because if you are living next to people who are just looking for an excuse 
> > to put you six feet under, RFI is somewhere on the level of no problem at 
> > all.
> > 
> > If you fear that any contact with them is going to result in your families 
> > demise, that danger is there RFI or not.
> > 
> > Any response other than getting yourself out of harms way is just choosing 
> > your real estate over your life.
> > 
> > Which is why this argument is silly in my mind. It’s like living next door 
> > to an unshielded reactor, and being upset about the color of the building 
> > it’s in.
> > 
> >     - Mike N3LI -
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