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Re: [RFI] Mercedes Sprinter Charger RFI

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Mercedes Sprinter Charger RFI
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 00:07:57 -0800
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On 2/2/2025 4:47 PM, Jim McCook wrote:
I just tracked a new, intense RFI source to my neighbor's brand new Sprinter, about 150ft from my tower.  When he removed the charger the RFI disappeared.  The RFI covers most HF bands, on 15m has broad, moving S-7 peaks on my K3 (calibrated S-meter).  I assume it's an unfiltered switching supply.  Has anyone had experience with such chargers of the Sprinter or other electric cars?  Do Tesla chargers emit such RFI?

My only experience is with my Tesla Model 3, which I've owned for four years. I remember listening for RFI from it when I first owned it, and don't remember hearing much, using my favorite near field probe, a vintage Kenwood TH-F6A talkie that has wideband RX from below the AM band to about 560 MHz, and detectors for AM and SSB. At that point, I was charging from a 120V 20A outlet.

Are analog chargers available for electric cars?

I suspect that they are not. But most charge regulators use some form of pulse width modulation, so that could be the source. The batteries in EVs are mondo-expensive, so the companies place a very high priority on optimizing their life. This would likely preclude the use of charging systems not optimized for their vehicle, and I'd bet that for most vehicles, it's in the car's computer(s).

The owner claims he needs to charge constantly to avoid damage to the lithium batteries.

He may be mis-reading the manual, but maybe not. Tesla recommends that you leave the car plugged in, but it's far from necessary, and many owners of EVs have no charge capability at home. A year or so ago, I had a plain vanilla 240V 30A outlet installed at a convenient location, and charge every few days. PG&E has an EV rate plan that makes it MUCH cheaper to charge during their off periods, which begins at midnight, and Tesla allows the owner to program in a starting time. I haven't listened for RFI since installing that outlet.

BTW -- it's also entirely possible that the charging cable and or house wiring is acting as a transmitting antenna for electronics in the vehicle.

It might be worth suggesting to the owner that he look into the EV rate plan of his local utility.

I can confirm that Tesla sedans are relatively RF quiet, on the basis of the experience from a Texas ham who posted details of his install of first a VHF/UHF rig, and then an HF rig in his Model 3. I remember an observation that what RFI was heard correlated to regenerative braking, which all EVs use extensively. Our first was my wife's Prius, which she's been driving for about ten years, and into which she pours petrol every few weeks.

73, Jim K9YC


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