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Today's Topics:
1. Re: New Dishwasher - Bosch (Dave Cole (NK7Z))
2. Dishwasher (Dennis)
3. Re: Dishwasher (John Simander)
4. Re: Dishwasher (dalej)
5. Re: Dishwasher (Christopher Brown)
6. Re: Dishwasher (Dennis Monticelli)
7. Re: Dishwasher (dalej)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:26:06 -0800
From: "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] New Dishwasher - Bosch
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I could not agree more with Jim more... If we do nothing, then the
makers will continue to pump out this sort of product. if we gripe at
every opportunity then they may think twice, or at least they will have
had an RFI experience, which forces them to think about the issue...
73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net
On 01/26/2018 10:09 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 1/26/2018 9:52 AM, Thomas Hoyer wrote:
I did discover that the under cabinet LED lights I put in raise my
noise level by a couple S-units when they are on.
The cause is the power supply. Replace it with a linear supply if it's
outboard. Or return it as defective.
The Samsung washer we just got is a another story - Big noise
generator. Quick fix is no wash gets done when I'm on the radios!
Best fix is to complain to Samsung and tell them to fix it under
warranty.? It's important that we do that if we don't want more of these
noisy products in the homes of our neighbors, who WON'T turn them off
when we're on the radio.
73, Jim K9YC
Tom
W3TA
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From: Kenneth G. Gordon <kgordon2006@frontier.com>
To: rfi <rfi@contesting.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 26, 2018 12:29 pm
Subject: Re: [RFI] New Dishwasher - Bosch
On 1/25/2018 8:59 PM, Bert wrote:
I've had a Bosch dishwasher for a few years and not a peep. The wife
is happy and so am I!!
We have owned a Bosch dishwasher here, too, for a couple of years.
Totally silent RFI
wise, and the Wife just loves it. Very quiet operation too.
Does an excellent job of cleaning the dishes.
Has two common "issues". 1) the handle that you use to open the door
is simply a piece of
unreinforced plastic, and will break after a while. Costs $80 and a
good hour to replace. I
fixed ours by mounting a black "screen-door" handle horizontally to
the front just above the
plastic handle. I used self-drilling sheet black sheet-metal screws,
about 2" long. There is a
clear area just there with steel behind it. Looks factory and works
prefectly.
I can send you a photo if you are interested.
2) if the seal at the bottom of the door is allowed to get crap built
up on it, it will leak. Takes
15 minutes to clean it.
But RFI wise, there isn't any.
Ken W7EKB
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:08:37 -0800
From: Dennis <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>
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Subject: [RFI] Dishwasher
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Today?s dishwashers are not built to last and have too many electronic
features. We bought a Speed Queen. It is built to industrial standards
and has analog controls. No RFI. Indestructible. Do a search and read
the feedback. You will pay more and get only the necessary features. The
XYL and I are happy owners.
Dennis AE6C
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 23:12:19 +0000
From: John Simander <drumbeat70@outlook.com>
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<dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Dishwasher
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I want a new light bulb for.the shack. One not too bright and not too dim.
One that does not flicker or spark. It also has to be 50 hertz. Any help.
See just how residuals this group has become.
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Subject: [RFI] Dishwasher
Today?s dishwashers are not built to last and have too many electronic
features. We bought a Speed Queen. It is built to industrial standards
and has analog controls. No RFI. Indestructible. Do a search and read
the feedback. You will pay more and get only the necessary features. The
XYL and I are happy owners.
Dennis AE6C
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:21:36 -0600
From: dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net>
To: Dennis <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFI] Dishwasher
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Why is the need to have microprossesors in a ?.dishwasher ??? Or clothing
washer, dryer etc. Displays, etc, why do we need a display for washing
dishes or clothing??
It just seems silly.
Dale, K9VUJ
On 26, Jan 2018, at 17:08, Dennis <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com> wrote:
Today?s dishwashers are not built to last and have too many electronic
features. We bought a Speed Queen. It is built to industrial standards
and has analog controls. No RFI. Indestructible. Do a search and read
the feedback. You will pay more and get only the necessary features. The
XYL and I are happy owners.
Dennis AE6C
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:23:22 -0900
From: Christopher Brown <cbrown@woods.net>
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Dishwasher
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The SpeedQueen cloths washers and dryers, the purly electromechanical
models anyway (they also make electronic types) are wonderful...I have a
set.
But I am not aware of them making dishwashers.
I have a super-quite (sound) Bosch dishwaster, 2 years old. Upper side
of mid range, IIRC sold in the 700 - 900 USD range. They do seem to
make some lower end ones with partially plastic housings, etc, but mid
to upper end Bosch units, specially the super-quiet rated ones seem to
be all metal housings all over (except for a couple < 2" dia holes for
lines/etc entering/leaving the chassis entire thing is metal enclosed).
There is filtration on the AC feed (Corcom filter brik plus toroids), as
there is for all my appliance AC feeds but unlike the MayTag it replaced
I cannot detect the electronics or VFD when running unless I am nearly
touching the case with a noise pickup antenna.
Also very quite to the ears, importany when you have a open plan living
room/dining room/kitchen. Can hear it running if no other noise, but
normal conversation or even low tv volume covers it (about 15db quieter
than the Maytag it replaced)
On 1/26/18 14:08, Dennis wrote:
Today?s dishwashers are not built to last and have too many
electronic features. We bought a Speed Queen. It is built to
industrial standards and has analog controls. No RFI.
Indestructible. Do a search and read the feedback. You will pay
more and get only the necessary features. The XYL and I are happy
owners.
Dennis AE6C
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 15:29:12 -0800
From: Dennis Monticelli <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>
To: dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net>
Cc: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Dishwasher
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Two basic reasons:
1) Extra features are cheaper to implement in a microcontroller (uC).
Features help prop up price in the low margin appliance business.
2) Younger buyers expect digital controls and displays. The older
technology is just not appealing. It's so "yesterday."
Guess that means we're all "yesterday" too :-)
Dennis AE6C
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 3:21 PM, dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net> wrote:
Why is the need to have microprossesors in a ?.dishwasher ??? Or
clothing
washer, dryer etc. Displays, etc, why do we need a display for washing
dishes or clothing??
It just seems silly.
Dale, K9VUJ
On 26, Jan 2018, at 17:08, Dennis <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com> wrote:
Today?s dishwashers are not built to last and have too many electronic
features. We bought a Speed Queen. It is built to industrial standards
and has analog controls. No RFI. Indestructible. Do a search and read
the feedback. You will pay more and get only the necessary features.
The
XYL and I are happy owners.
Dennis AE6C
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 17:39:45 -0600
From: dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net>
To: Dennis Monticelli <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>
Cc: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Dishwasher
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I suppose you are right.
The new gens need to have that display like on the smart fones
I wish them luck.
Pay for stuff that?s not needed to wash some dishes or some clothing.
Dale, K9VUJ
On 26, Jan 2018, at 17:29, Dennis Monticelli <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>
wrote:
Two basic reasons:
1) Extra features are cheaper to implement in a microcontroller (uC).
Features help prop up price in the low margin appliance business.
2) Younger buyers expect digital controls and displays. The older
technology is just not appealing. It's so "yesterday."
Guess that means we're all "yesterday" too :-)
Dennis AE6C
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 3:21 PM, dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net <mailto:
dj2001x@comcast.net>> wrote:
Why is the need to have microprossesors in a ?.dishwasher ??? Or clothing
washer, dryer etc. Displays, etc, why do we need a display for washing
dishes or clothing??
It just seems silly.
Dale, K9VUJ
On 26, Jan 2018, at 17:08, Dennis <dennis.monticelli@gmail.com <mailto:
dennis.monticelli@gmail.com>> wrote:
Today?s dishwashers are not built to last and have too many electronic
features. We bought a Speed Queen. It is built to industrial standards
and has analog controls. No RFI. Indestructible. Do a search and read
the feedback. You will pay more and get only the necessary features. The
XYL and I are happy owners.
Dennis AE6C
Sent from my iPhone
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