Agreed!
73
Jim W7RY
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From: "Dick Flanagan" <dick@k7vc.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:07 PM
To: "Jeff Blaine" <keepwalking188@yahoo.com>; "RTTY Reflector"
<rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
> Writelog scrolls down (not up) so you don't have to chase call signs.
> The call sign stays in one place until the window fills and starts to
> fill from the top again. It is too bad that N1MM doesn't have that
> feature.
>
> Dick
>
> --
> Dick Flanagan K7VC
> dick@k7vc.com
>
>
> On 1/16/2012 3:41 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> I’m saying get rid of that last CR/LF. A guy will be trying to get his
>> mouse over your exchange and then that CR/LF will come along and bump
>> everything up. Not a help. N1MM has a feature to kill off some of these
>> CR/LF but I don’t think it will filter that case.
>>
>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>> www.ac0c.com
>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mike
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 5:27 PM
>> To: Jeff Blaine
>> Cc: rtty@contesting.com ; k0rc@citlink.net
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
>>
>> Your right Jeff. There should be a space before the last "(CR/LF)".
>> Just got lost in the e-mail line wrap-around.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Jeff Blaine<keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> You may also want to drop that last CR/LF in favor of a space.
>> Otherwise you make the guy on the other end chase you up the page
>> unnecessarily.
>>
>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>> www.ac0c.com
>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mike
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:59 PM
>> To: rtty@contesting.com
>> Cc: k0rc@citlink.net ; Jeff Blaine
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
>>
>>
>> Regarding the sending of the call at the end of the exchange:
>>
>> a.. If I am running I'll only send the call of the station I'm
>> answering at the end of the exchange (the call is always sent at the
>> beginning of the exchange) when: a. Several stations answered my CQ and
>> are still calling when start sending my exchange, or; b. When I think I
>> may have started sending the exchange when he may still be transmitting,
>> or; c. At the end of the "K1XXX TU(CR/LF)Now K2XX 599 VA VA K2XX (CR/LF)"
>> exchange.
>>
>> b.. I don't send the other station's call, or my call, at the end of
>> my S&P exchange.
>>
>> Regarding "a." above, I sometimes still don't send the call at the end
>> of the exchange if I know my signal is strong into his location or the
>> other stations stop sending their calls about the same time the station I
>> am answering did, or the other stations calling were not as loud as the
>> station I answer.
>>
>> You have to get a feel for when to send the call at the end of the
>> exchange. Suspect I send the other station's call at the end of the
>> exchange about 50% of the time.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Jeff Blaine<keepwalking188@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Robert you are right.
>>
>> The place to get the run station's call is off his CQ. Not off the
>> exchange.
>>
>> 73/jeff/ac0c
>> www.ac0c.com
>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Chudek - K0RC
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:26 PM
>> To: rtty@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] (no subject)
>>
>> "Think about it.
>> I am doing S/P tuning across his frequency and I see:
>> k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx"
>>
>> When I am in S&P and I come across this exchange, all I know is the
>> station transmitting is not K1XX. The exchange is configured for the
>> benefit of two stations trying to make a QSO as efficiently as
>> possible.
>> It is not configured to give a S&P station some advantage.
>>
>> "Who is the calling station?"
>> As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
>>
>> "Who is the station running the frequency?
>> As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
>>
>> "So who should I call?"
>> As a S&P station, you will just have to wait and see.
>>
>> "Are you saying I should just send out my call without knowing who I
>> am
>> trying to contact."
>> Absolutely NOT! You should never call blind! As a S&P station, you
>> will just
>> have to wait and see.
>>
>> "How about this:
>> k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx de w6wrt"
>> That's just a waste of the transmitting stations time (and the
>> receiving
>> station as well).
>>
>> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On 1/16/2012 12:57 PM, Richard Cariello wrote:
>> > Bob,
>> > That's what makes this a horse race. As the person who is running
>> the
>> > frequency the more time he gets his call out the better will be
>> his rate.
>> >
>> > Think about it.
>> > I am doing S/P tuning across his frequency and I see:
>> > k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx
>> >
>> > Who is the calling station?
>> > Who is the station running the frequency?
>> > So who should I call?
>> > Are you saying I should just send out my call without knowing who
>> I am
>> > trying to contact. I see this allot but that station never gets
>> called
>> > because he has already been worked, just adding QRM to the
>> frequency.
>> >
>> > You come across this type of operation allot during SSB contests.
>> The
>> > station will run signing as "QRZ". After a while I simply call
>> the station
>> > as "QRZ" but at least the next time I tune across this station I
>> can at
>> > least ID his voice.
>> >
>> > How about this:
>> > k1xx 599<exch> <exch> k1xx de w6wrt
>> >
>> > As the station doing S/P this would let me see who is running the
>> > frequency and give the station he is working the second chance to
>> know it
>> > is his report. Now I will know as the S/P station if I need him
>> or not.
>> >
>> > Rich AA2MF
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jan 16, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Robert Chudek - K0RC wrote:
>> >
>> >> He is not signing as the other station. The other station
>> already knows
>> >> he is working W6WRT. It's a waste of time sending W6WRT again.
>> >>
>> >> Bill also knows his call sign, so there's no benefit for him
>> seeing it
>> >> again either.
>> >>
>> >> There is a benefit. That is when the first K1XX gets covered up
>> by "tail
>> >> enders" and "long callers". Nobody knows who the report is being
>> sent to
>> >> (other than W6WRT). Having the call sign on the end ensures the
>> intended
>> >> station knows he is being worked.
>> >>
>> >> I lost count of the number of times I received "4:XC-ALU4C 599
>> CA CA BK"
>> >> on my screen. Then I simply WAIT until the station resends his
>> report
>> >> and I can tell whether he is working me or someone else.
>> >>
>> >> 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
>> >>
>>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 1/16/2012 8:13 AM, Richard Cariello wrote:
>> >>> Bill W6WRT,
>> >>> I am just getting back into RTTY myself and greatly enjoying
>> the mode.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am wondering why you are signing as the other station:
>> >>>
>> >>> ME: K1XX 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
>> >>>
>> >>> I would use:
>> >>>
>> >>> ME: k1xx 599<exch> <exch> w6wrt (your callsign)
>> >>>
>> >>> If conditions are bad then double the callsigns as needed to
>> make the
>> >>> QSO.
>> >>>
>> >>> Rich AA2MF
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Duane Budd wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Bill said:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "When I'm running, I want to verify two things from the
>> calling
>> >>>> station:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. He's working me and not another station on the frequency
>> that I
>> >>>> can't
>> >>>> hear.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. That he has my callsign correct.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unless the calling station sends my call at some point, how
>> would I
>> >>>> verify
>> >>>> the above?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here's how I like it when I'm running:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ME: CQ TEST W6WRT W6WRT CQ
>> >>>> HIM: K1XX K1XX K1XX (or only twice if condx good, never
>> just once)
>> >>>> ME: K1XX 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
>> >>>> HIM: W6WRT 599<EXCH> <EXCH> K1XX
>> >>>> ME: K1XX TU W6WRT CQ
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There is some redundancy in the above, but during a busy
>> contest when
>> >>>> often
>> >>>> there are several stations on the same frequency, some
>> redundancy is a
>> >>>> necessity, IMO. Otherwise you are likely to log the wrong
>> station.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 73, Bill W6WRT"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And that is exactly the way I do it and for the same reasons.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> While I am not a pro like AA5AU, I enjoy RTTY contesting and
>> it has
>> >>>> become
>> >>>> my favorite operating joy...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Budd, W5BEN
>> >>>> dcbudd@embarqmail.com
>> >>>> Johnson City, TN
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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>> 73,
>> Mike, K4GMH
>>
>>
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