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Re: [TenTec] Re: Orion IP2 numbers

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re: Orion IP2 numbers
From: "Jim Reid" <jimr.reid@verizon.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:21:28 -1000
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Please pardon the previous incomplete post,  same
subject from me,  this is the one intended:

> Given that the spec for IP2 is +75dBm, I hope T-T will 
> take a look at what  caused this discrepancy -- and 
> whether it was an anomaly of the radio that ARRL had 
> for test, or whether it effects 'em all.

I thought the Orion Main rcvr did not receive much from
outside the amateur bands.  Here are the parameters of
the ARRL test and the reported data:

"Second-Order Intercept
Test Description: This test measures the amount of 2nd-order 
mixing that takes place in the receiver and calculates an
intercept of the second order response with the on-channel
response. Signals at 6 and 8 MHz are presented to the 
receiver and the resultant output at 14 MHz is measured.

Test Results:

Frequency..Preamplifier. Mode. IP2 (dBm). Notes

14.02 MHz.... Off........... CW.. +63.0... Main Receiver

14.02 MHz.... On...........  CW.. +63.0... Main Receiver

14.02 MHz... N/A............ CW... +43.1.. Sub Receiver

Note that the test signals input to the Main Rcvr for
the test are at 6 and 8 MHz!!  Frequencies to which the
main rcvr is alleged to be deaf!!?  What is really going on
here and what does the test data mean???  Just some readings
on a Audio Voltmeter,  but what was really being read?

Of course the Sub rcvr is "open" to those frequencies.

Inquiring minds are wondering about this;  I suspect it
is NOT possible to measure 2nd order products of the
Orion main rcvr,  if so how?  These occur as f1+and-f2,
and 2f1 and 2f2.  There for,  one way,  legitimate to 
measure,  it seems to me, for example would be to
generate a signal at 7.01 MHz, and read the output
at 14.02,  the data readout frequency the ARRL labs
chose.  Now that could be  a legitimate test,  but not
6 and 8 MHz input which would "mix" to an f1+_f2
result of 14.00MHz,  and not 14.02,  by the way.

73,  Jim  KH7M


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