Yes.
Didn't you already ask me this?
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Baron - KB3MM
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 21:02
To: aa6yq@ambersoft.com; tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] audio
Is all of the source code available ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Bernstein" <aa6yq@ambersoft.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 21:30
Subject: RE: [TenTec] audio
> With respect to the FlexRadio SDR-1000, there is another difference:
> users have access to the source code.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 16:17
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] audio
>
>
> > My notion is that the ORION should not be promoted as a
> > software-defined radio with all that implies without providing some
> > indication of its software-defined capabilities as opposed to those
> > which are embedded in the hardware.
>
> I generally agree that no product should be misrepresented in the way
> you suggest. But I still see the gap with reality not as expectation
> based
> on promotion hype, but expectation based on wishful thinking.
>
> To take it to the extreme, all of the controls on the front of the
> Orion and all of the connectors on the back could I suppose have label
> strips for changing their function and assignments. And while
> certainly the code could be written to do that for some things, it
> doesn't make much sense,
>
> and would do little of value but add to the cost of firmware
> development, related control mux/demux/routing logic, and even more
> confusion for the user. It does seem to me that by printing a pinout
> for something with
> labels on each pin, it should be reasonably apparent that it isn't a
> "make it
> what you want it" connection.
>
> So I don't buy into the notion at all that T-T is selling snake oil
> about "software defined".
>
> An informed buyer has access to the complete manual prior to purchase.
> And the new one is pretty good. (I also think T-T should require a
> signed
> affadavit from each owner that they have READ the darn thing too --
> <grin>).
>
> An uninformed buyer who isn't happy that he can't set a menu item and
> plug DC power into the CW jack or route audio out the antenna
> connector, is .. well .. a little uninformed. Ok ... so that's a bit
> extreme :-)
> but those things really bear little on being SD. All of the
> information,
> menu options, etc. are clearly set out in the manual.
>
> > The Icom PRO2 contains more control computers (at least six, each
> with
> > it own dedicated function set and firmware) and software than the
> > ORION yet Icom never presents it as a software-defined radio.
>
> I'm going to leave that alone :-) Counting processors doesn't make
> the
> difference.
>
>
> > silicon as it were. But, over-promotion does raise expectations and
> > that in turn causes confusion and disappointment when things are not
> > as one would reasonably expect them to be.
>
> I just reread very carefully both the ads that are running in QST and
> the material on the website. Nowhere do I see over promotion. If
> expectation exceeds what the manual says the radio does, then that's
not
>
> a vendor generated expectation.
>
> > As to "appliance" - yes, the majority of users today could be termed
> > "appliance operators."
>
> I'm not knocking appliance operators either. More often than I'd like
> to admit, I'm one myself. It makes life simple. And I enjoy it :-)
>
> > When, instead, the "appliance" is marketed with the implied promise
> > that virtually any feature or capability can be provided by a
firmware
>
> > upgrade, then the confusion mounts and disappointment results.
>
> This is a general misunderstanding among many consumer segments
> about "firmware controlled things. It has nothing whatsover to do
with
> overpromotion. You should read some of the digital camera forums
> about what folks think a "firmware upgrade" will do for lens
> performance,
> and other very hardware defined parameters, etc. It's hysterical.
And
>
> they get genuinely upset that a little (free) firmware can't turn
> their 10X zoom 3 Mp Wizzerroo 7xl into a 10 Mp camera with 400x zoom
> or take over lighting and composition for them.
>
> Nowhere do camera manufacturers state that "everything" can be
> software upgraded (they rarely state that anything at all can be
> upgraded). And radio vendors don't do that either, that I can see.
>
> If/when the new "I" radio is released with upgradable firmware, that
> vendor will very likely have the same issues to deal with. And the
very
>
> same misunderstandings will result. It's the nature of the guy buying
> the radio to read what he wants to read between the lines. You do
> have to admit (or not) that T-T has been much more forthcoming about
> the Orion in terms of technical detail than anything we've seem from
> our Asian friends so far.
> >
> > I have been exploring the nearest thing to a true software-defined
> > radio with the SDR-1000 developed by FlexRadio.
>
> Yep, it's an interesting little radio. But if you read their own
> description of what being SD means, except for being a simple direct
> conversion receiver, it differs not a whit in overall design from
> what's being done in
> the Orion, and probably the PRO-II (except it won't perform near as
well
>
> as either of them). And it doesn seem to have specific I/O
> assignments
> for things like Mic, Speaker, key, etc :-)
>
> Grant/NQ5T
>
>
>
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