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Re: [TenTec] OT: Scopes

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Scopes
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:28:47 +0100
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Lee,

The RF or Audio signal from the RX stage is passed on through a capacitor to
the next stage, otherwise you would have the high voltage on the input of
the next stage.   Measure on the other side of the capacitor, not on the
high voltage side.

You need to consider the voltage specs of the probe, but most should be good
for 250v.

73
Rick, DJ0IP

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of kc9cdt@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:00 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Scopes

I guess the real question originated from me..to Dave.....I asked about 
2500 volts as a 10x question not as if I want to measure that 
voltage...I know much better.
I would use a HV prove on a VTVM.
.it wasn't that we want to measure that high of voltage...just making 
sure
I (we) understand the scopes max input so as not to damage it.
If it says 250 P-P and I want to measure a waveform from the plate of a 
stage of a RX with plate voltage of 150 volts and I'm using a 10x probe,
I should be fine??

The question was more of a 10x probe question...are they marked with 
the max voltage? Or do you have to look up the specs? What is typical?

What is realistic in practise?

Thanks,
73,
Lee



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment' <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Scopes


Dave, you can even measure 25,000 volts with it - ***ONCE IN YOUR
LIFETIME***.    

Scopes are not foreseen for measuring high voltage.
They are for measuring signals and wave shapes, etc.

There are better instruments for measuring high voltage and in all 
cases you
should be using a purpose-built high-voltage probe.

73
Rick, DJ0IP

-----Original Message-----
 From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Edwards
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:12 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Scopes

Another list member and I were wondering......If a scope's front panel
says max 250 volts P/P....does that mean if you
have a X10 probe, you can then measure 2500 volts...(safely)?

....Dave

On 2/20/2012 9:07 AM, kc9cdt@aol.com wrote:
> Buy from a reputable dealer not at the hamfest IF you want more
> assurance.
> Actually when you get at least a working (check it out as much as you
> can there) scope at a hamfest....being perectly calibrated in most
> cases is not critical for our work.
> That assumes you talking boat anchors, like I work on.
> 73,
> Lee
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richards<jruing@ameritech.net>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment<tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 12:00 am
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Scopes
>
>
> Please excuse me  if I missed it... but I don't recall anyone 
explaining
> to the unwashed...
>
>       What can one do to avoid getting a lemon or broken
>       or poorly calibrated,  or whatever broken,  oscilloscope
>       at the local hamfest ?
>
> This item is beyond my current expertise, but it may not be
> forever beyond my grasp.    How do I avoid getting stung  (other
> than to buy something new?)    What do I look for if I don't have
> my favorite Elmer on hand ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> ----------------------------  K8JHR  
----------------------------------
>
> On 2/19/2012 2:06 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
>
>> Interesting, Steve!  Your memory is much better than mine, since I
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