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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 106, Issue 10
From: john marks <kb4uxc@yahoo.com>
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Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:19:14 -0700 (PDT)
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I sure hope Ten Tec puts 160 on the new qrp rig

On Sun Oct 9th, 2011 3:00 PM EDT tentec-request@contesting.com wrote:

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>   1. Re: Noise in Omni V (Jim WA9YSD)
>   2. Re: Noise in Omni V (Ed)
>   3. Re: Noise in Omni V (Ken Brown)
>   4. Re: Comparison of TS-590S to Omni VII (Richards)
>   5. Re: Question (Simone)
>   6. When and where Ten Tec 418? (Curt)
>   7. Re: Question (Floyd Sense)
>   8. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (doug@kb9ryo.com)
>   9. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Carl Winkles)
>  10. 160m for th Ten Tec 418? (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
>  11. Orion backup battery (Barry N1EU)
>  12. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Ron Notarius W3WN)
>  13. Re: 160m for th Ten Tec 418? (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
>  14. Re: 160m for th Ten Tec 418? (Steve Berg)
>  15. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Curt)
>  16. Re: Question (Simone)
>  17. Re: When and where Ten Tec 418? (Curt)
>  18. Re: Question (Floyd Sense)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:26:31 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jim WA9YSD <wa9ysd@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Noise in Omni V
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>Could be the internal relays. Even thought they are sealed air still get in 
>and corrosion occurs. Best is to use it and keep switching bands, antennas, 
>and the sort see if it goes away. ?These Omni's seams to like, to be used.
>
>Also record the room temperature at which is occurs and it may be temperature 
>sensitive. See if the room temp rises 5 degrees or lowers 5 degrees or so if 
>it comes back or disappears.
>
>Intermittent issues are a pain in the butt. If you can duplicate the problem a 
>number of times note what might be causing it. ?Time will tell.
>?
>Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith.?Jim K9TF/WA9YSD
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:59:17 -0400
>From: Ed <autek@comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Noise in Omni V
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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>On 10/08/2011 05:26 PM, Jim WA9YSD wrote:
>> Could be the internal relays. Even thought they are sealed air still
>> get in and corrosion occurs. Best is to use it and keep switching
>> bands, antennas, and the sort see if it goes away.  These Omni's
>> seams to like, to be used.
>>
>> Also record the room temperature at which is occurs and it may be
>> temperature sensitive. See if the room temp rises 5 degrees or lowers
>> 5 degrees or so if it comes back or disappears.
>>
>> Intermittent issues are a pain in the butt. If you can duplicate the
>> problem a number of times note what might be causing it.  Time will
>> tell.
>>
>> Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim
>> K9TF/WA9YSD
>
>
>SSB or CW ?????
>
>Ed W3NR
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:15:32 -1000
>From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Noise in Omni V
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>Mode of operation? Filters IF or audio tone and notch in use?
>
>   My friend reported that the noise came through on my signal and wiped 
>it out.
>
>Really? This is an interesting fault. I don't think that rig uses any 
>audio stages that are common to both transmit and receive, so an 
>oscillating audio stage would not do it. Maybe an oscillation in a power 
>supply regulator inside the radio. Three terminal regulator ICs often 
>need bypass capacitors on input an/or output to keep them from becomming 
>oscillators.
>
>Oscillation in the IF system that has the filter that rejects the 
>opposite sideband? One of the only stages that is actually used in both 
>TX and RX.
>
>Multiple tones coming out of a single BFO? If you try opposite sideband 
>or different mode that would change it or make it go away, if that were 
>the source.
>
>What band? Any band you operate on or just one? What about into a 50 ohm 
>terminator instead of an antenna? Do you always operate on the same 
>frequency? Maybe it is an external source. Try changing frequency. Maybe 
>a spur from one of the oscillators in the rig (related to idea of 
>multiple tones from the BFO.)
>
>DE N6KB
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 04:54:31 -0400
>From: Richards <jruing@ameritech.net>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Comparison of TS-590S to Omni VII
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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>Good question.   Not sure I am quite prepared to answer that, as I am 
>just getting used to it, and still exploring how it works.
>
>Here are a couple of preliminary observations:
>
>       REMEMBER... THESE ARE HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE USAGE
>       NOTES, NOT TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS.
>
>________________________________________________________
>THINGS THAT ARE EASIER TO LEARN OR DO
>ON THE Omni VII THAN ON THE TS-590S
>________________________________________________________
>
>1)   The layout of the front panel controls is very different.   The The 
>Omni VII is easier to figure out and the buttons are easier to find and 
>read.
>
>       A)  The Omni VII has fewer buttons - the TS-590s a LOT more buttons. 
>That, alone, makes it harder to find what you need, because there are 
>just plain more buttons to sort through.
>
>               NOTE--having more buttons means more features are
>               accessible from the front panel... but that does not mean
>               the Omni VII suffers in comparison.  TenTec really considered
>               what functions to make available on the front panel buttons,
>               and the stuff you wanna change quickly during a QSO are
>               all available on the Omni VII - similarly for the TS-590s, but
>               the Kenwood rig has even more functions you can access via
>               the front panel, but these access functions you do not
>               generally access most of the time.   So the Omni VII panel is
>               less cluttered, with fewer buttons, but that just means it
>               has only the good stuff up front.
>
>       B)  The Omni VII buttons are just a little larger then the Kenwood 
>buttons.  This makes them easier to see and use.
>
>       C)  The Omni VII has just two rows of function buttons, one above and 
>one below the main screen.   It is easier to read them going from left 
>to right all in a line, whereas the TS-590s has way MORE buttons and 
>they are clustered in groups.   THIS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
>
>               NOTE -- this is NOT a deal breaker.   But the topic of the
>               essay is "which rig is easier to learn to use."
>
>       D)  The Omni VII has some meaningful space between each of the buttons 
>- black space - while the TS-590s has less space, and there is writing 
>in much of that space, putting way more lettering on the face.  It is 
>just plain harder to read and identify each button's function.
>
>       E)  The Omni VII dual purpose buttons all have the two functions 
>labeled on the button, itself, where the TS-590s labels one-purpose on 
>the button, and the secondary purpose is written on the panel, between 
>it and the next button.  That alone, makes it harder to separate each 
>button and see what it does because there is just plain more writing, 
>i.e. more clutter, on the TS-590s screen.
>
>       F)  The Omni VII has a big square screen, whilst the Kenwood has a 
>smaller, rectangular screen.  I think it is easier to read the 
>information on the TT screen, because it is
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