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Re: [TenTec] open wire feed/loops

To: k8bbm@srt.com,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] open wire feed/loops
From: Randy Russe3ll <lord_russell53@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:12:23 -0800 (PST)
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So is the same 160 meters of wire (about 500 ft 
Straightened out into a flat top dipole. The dipole
would significantly out perform the loop.   

--- k8bbm <k8bbm@srt.com> wrote:

>       at 2-3 wavelengths, you stop being a cloud warmer -
> remember that at harmonics, the radiation begins to
> go in
> the plane of the loop.  I've used a 160 mtr horiz
> loop on 80
> mtrs and had wonderful performance.
> Dave K8BBM                    
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj@hotmail.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] open wire feed/loops
> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:00:38 +0000
>                               
> >
> > I tried to find the bare copper 450 ohm open wire
> feed
> > with the ceramic or  white plastic spacers a
> couple of
> > years ago, and after contacting 3 or 4  vendors
> who all
> > had the plastic window line only, was finally told
> by
> > someone that you can't get the bare copper feed
> anymore
> > because in our world  of lawsuits, it was
> considered too
> > dangerous for anyone to use.
> >
> > The only source i know of (besides making it
> yourself) for
> > the genuine open  wire feed (i.e. not window line)
>  is
> > W7FG as someone else mentioned.   This  what I
> use, and I
> > have had no problems with it, but I can't compare
> it to
> > window line because i have never used the 450 ohm
> window
> > line.   For all I  know, it may be just as good
> more or
> > less (or better?).
> >
> > I use pvc pipes stuck in the ground and topped
> with T
> > sections to hold my  line up over the ground.  It
> enters
> > my basement at a small casement window  that's 1.5
> x 2.5
> > feet and divided into 3 panes.  I bashed out the
> middle
> > pane and replaced it with plexiglass that I
> drilled two
> > holes in 3" apart.   I put banana jacks in these
> and
> > terminated the line outside with plugs.    this
> makes a
> > quick disconnect for thunderstorms.    on the
> inside I
> > soldered  another foot or two of line to the jacks
> and put
> > my transmatch on a shelf in  front of the window. 
> coax
> > from there to the rig.     i was lucky to have a 
> ready
> > made window--it almost looks like it was put there
> for the
> > feedline.    As bob said, it's worth it to bring
> the line
> > in some way, even if you have  to hire someone to
> saw a
> > square out and put in a window.
> >
> > I have a question about the cloud burner loops.   
> If you
> > have a low loop  that's only 20' off the ground
> but make
> > it 2 or 3 lambda on 80 m. it seems  to me it will
> still be
> > a cloud burner on that band.  Is this right or
> will  the
> > length give you some lower angles?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > rob / k5uj
> >
> >
>
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