Watch for an "expiration" date on software in the future? How about now? There
are a number of (software) companies doing that already.
"Will the Ten-Tec of the future be any different?" Unless they change their
business model in the future, I say "kudos" for having the "guts" to open
source the Rebel and Patriot. Hopefully they will continue with that concept.
73, Al
On Mon January 5 2015 11:37:06 am Phil Sussman wrote:
> Old radio equipment -vs- older computers.
>
> There is one truth. The lack of support for older software based units
> is tied directly the ability to force sales of new equipment. Look at
> the reality of using non-software based units (RL-Drake for example)
> where units can be used for periods that dwarf software based products.
>
> Remember: Most software is licensed. So, watch in the future for a date
> where licensed software will just plain expire making a market for older
> units that can be used only as boat anchors or paperweights.
>
> Will the TEN-TEC of the future be any different?
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>
> Quoting Jim Vohland <n9vo@hotmail.com>:
> > All fine and dandy but at what point will radio manufacturers step
> > into future and make rigs that won't require keeping a 10 year old
> > computer around?
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Actually just about any brand new business laptop from Dell or
> >> Lenovo has a true serial port and you can always boot dos from a
> >> floppy.
> >>
> >> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> >> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> >> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:39 PM
> >> To: tentec@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] solved - Orion II won't flash
> >>
> >> That's why I still have an old one with W-95. Many older Motorola
> >> radios can not be programmed with modern computers.
> >> They require true serial ports with slow processors and it becomes
> >> becomes harder and harder to find old B&W LCD Laptops that run
> >> with true DOS.
> >> 73, Tony VE3DWI.
> >>
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> >> Original Message
> >> From: Barry N1EU
> >> Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 04:24
> >> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >> Reply To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] solved - Orion II won't flash
> >>
> >> It's not a USB port that I was using - it's a real serial port. I
> >> consider the case closed and glad I held on to my old computer ;-)
> >>
> >> Barry N1EU
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Kim Elmore
> >>> <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you broke out your old XP box, it was certainly a a different port!
> >>> Had you already tried a different USB-RS232 interface? That would have
> >>> been something similar, I suppose.
> >>>
> >>> Kim N5OP
> >>>
> >>> "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long
> >>> as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 4, 2015, at 13:57, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> To try a different computer/port.
> >>>>
> >>>> Barry N1EU
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Kim Elmore
> >>>>> <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> I'm curious: what was his suggestion? I missed it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kim N5OP
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/4/2015 1:19 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks to Rick VE7TK's suggestion, I dug up my ancient WinXP
> >>>>>> computer
> >>>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>>>> cabled it up and it flashed the radio fine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 73, Barry N1EU
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> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology,
> >>>>> CCM, PP SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
> >>>>> But, in practice, there is." //– Attributed to many people; it’s so
> >>>>> true that it doesn’t matter who said it./
> >>>>>
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