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Re: [TenTec] Inrad Roofing filter board in Omni VI

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Inrad Roofing filter board in Omni VI
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:18:30 -1000
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Hi Chuck,

Based on your experience copying 5T0CW on 30 meters....

"I had an experience yesterday, I'd like to share. During a time when I had strong line noise, some of the locals were working 5T0CW on 30 meters, and I couldn't copy at all. The Omni VI noise blanker helped, but not enough. Then I turned my NAR switch off ( which disengages both my narrow IF filter-- INRAD 753-- and the 600 Hz roofing filter. Now I could copy the 5T station! The noise blanker was more effective in smoothing out the harsh hiss of the line noise in this case. When the line noise is not present, I always have better copy with the NAR switch on."
I would say that the answer to your question....

"I've been considering dedicating the Omni VI to CW only by wiring the roofing filter so it is in line all the time (using the NAR switch in its normal mode). That would provide me with options in terms of CW selectivity (since I have the VI, not the VI+). Now I'm wondering if this would compromise my noise blanker. "

....is, yes, it would compromise your noise blanker.

I wonder if the Inrad modification inserts the roofing filter in the wrong place? I think their choice of insertion point for the filter modification was made based on the ease of installation, and to make the modification more easily reversible. Many hams (particularly Ten-Tec cultists) do not want to make any irreversable modification to their radio, and a modification that seems too "drastic" would not sell as well as one that can be fairly easily plugged in, and unplugged later. By putting a narrow filter before the noise detector and the noise blanking switch, they have changed the functionality of the noise blanker. This could be because the noise pulses that trigger the noise blanker circuit are attenuated and stretched out in the time domain by the narrow filter.

Looking at the schematic, I think that a better place to insert a roofing filter modification would be between T5 and T6. C20 could be removed, and the cables to and from the add on board could solder to the PCB pads where C20 had been. I do not know what the impedance is at this point. So I cannot say whether a filter could be inserted there without some additional circuitry to get the impedance matching to the filter right. Likely there would need to be some gain to compensate for the filter loss, as is done in the Inrad modification (or so I have heard).

Putting the new roofing filter in place of C20 puts it behind only one more active gain stage, Q1, than where Inrad puts it. And this would also put it after the noise blanker, which is also where the FM detector gets it's feed. Like the Inrad mod location this also keeps it out of the TX signal path, so that it does not need to get switched in and out between TX and RX mode when operating SSB. Y2 would remain the filter that passes one sideband and rejects the other for SSB TX.

I think your idea of a roofing filter that is in line all the time sounds like a good idea, if it is in the right place. You could use a CW bandwidth filter and the radio would no longer be usable for SSB, or you could use a SSB bandwidth filter and still have all modes, probably with some improvement in close spaced dynamic range. Perhaps not as much advantage as the Inrad modification since Q1 could be overdriven by strong signals make it through Y1.

This is not intended to be a criticism of Inrad's roofing filter modification. I'm glad they have made their product available. I may buy one myself. I'm just interested in discussing other possibilities.

Another possibility, if you're willing to give up both SSB TX and RX capability, is to replace Y2 with a narrower filter (1.8 kHz or 1 kHz maybe), and put your narrowest filter (500 or 250 Hz) in the NAR option filter position.

DE N6KB






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