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Subject: [TenTec] Strange FD RFI
From: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:26:58 -0500
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I'll pop this out here to see if anyone has any good explanations for what I experienced.

As I said in a prior post, I proudly produced my freshly aligned, roofing-filter equipped, vintage (high serial number!), one-owner TS-930S for a FD experience. Initial testing showed that I experienced minimal interference from other transmitters when I was on the CW end of 20 m and the other tx was on the phone end. In fact, I could get within about 20 kHz of the other tx (an FT1000D while it was running 200 W) before I heard enough phase noise to cause trouble. Before, the '930S rx would fold if there was another local tx on the same band. Great! Wonderful! Almost as good as my O II. I'm happy.

With that feather in my hat, I experienced one of the strangest RFI problems I've ever encountered. The FT1000D I mentioned has an internal PS and was in the phone position. As soon as I got the '930S going, I noticed that I had terrible PS regulation (on transmit only, when the PS was loaded). It was so bad that the display nearly went out a couple of times. I also had quite a bit of hash in the rx when the phone station was transmitting. I checked Vc and it was all over the place, dropping to maybe 20 V or so at times.

"Great: my PS chooses FD to fail!" But then I noticed the neon indicator lamps on some extension cords were also pulsing. A lot. And the pulses corresponded with SSB operations. We put a DVM on the line and measured a pretty solid 119 VAC and about 59.5 Hz line frequency, all on generator power. We tried it with two different meters and got the same values, though one meter could not measure the line frequency because of RFI. We even tried it with an analog meter and it looked OK. But those neon pilot lights kept merrily pulsing with the SSB.

On a hunch, I tried commercial power. Lo! and behold! All is perfect. A perfect '930S PS. I put it back on generator and I had a complete dud. What's more, if a different rig was active on SSB, I had no problems! We carefully made a ground strap for my radio, attached it, and found that it made no difference whatsoever (no surprise there, but we tried it, anyway)

I zipped home, lashed together a surplus Corcom AC line filter (of unknown characteristics) onto a spare line cord I had, dragged out a 1250 VA UPS, and headed back out. The line filter helped but didn't eliminate the problem. I noticed that the Vc never made it to the specified voltage and was always a bit low, but was less variable, when the FT1000D was being used.

Then I tried the UPS and it solved everything. All was well, even with the offending FT1000D on full boil. No other rigs seemed to have problems with the FT1000D, but no other rigs except mine and that FT1000D had internal power supplies. I don't know what the PSU is in the FT1000D or even whether it's a linear or switching supply. But I can only guess that the FT1000D dumps almost as much RF into the AC line cord as it does into the antenna! Back in CO, where my 160 m vertical was only about 10 ft from my operating position, at 500 W I never had RFI to the '930S PS. This was totally strange.

Even with the UPS, I would hear hash from the FT1000D SSB while on 20 m. They could hear me, though I never affected their operations, but the hash from the SSB was enough to wipe out some of the even moderate CW signals on my '930S. The hash would be up to about S5 or so and made copy very difficult -- I had to request lots of fills and that slowed me way down.

While I was on 40 m, the SSB station complained of RFI from *me* while on 15 m. The club has some band pass filers, so I stuck the 40 filter in and they said it was much improved. Then the 40 m filter failed and the 15 m SSB station heard me again. I handed them a 15 m bp filter (which should not have helped if it was a legitimate 3rd harmonic from me) and they said all the interference from me again went away. I still haven't figured that one out.

Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Is there something unique about the FT1000D power supply or the rig itself that causes stuff like this?

Kim N5OP


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