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Re: [TenTec] Encoder shaft stability

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Encoder shaft stability
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net>
Reply-to: geraldj@weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:21:32 -0500
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On 4/13/2010 6:23 PM, Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
I've been toying with an idea and would appreciate input from the group.



Haven't had any experience with the Orions yet, but every on other T/T rig with 
an encoder, I've seen varying amounts of encoder shaft wobble.  If you lift up 
on the front of the knob, it'll move noticeably and irritatingly (at least to 
me).



The reason for this is T/T relies on the encoder bushing alone to serve as the only 
bearing surface, and that single-point bearing allows lateral "wiggle".   I 
think we can give the encoder a two-point support with just a minimum amount of effort.



What I have in mind is a circular piece of say, 1/16" Teflon sheet, about 1 ½" diameter, with a ¼" 
hole in the center.  Using a nibbler, cut out a bite every ¼" or so from inside of the hole so small 
"fingers" would be left to contact the shaft.  This would encircle and hold the shaft and still have only a 
minimum of surface contact area.



Then attach the Teflon disc under the knob to the plastic bezel using pins or 
#2 machine screws.  The latter would be placed outside the track of the tension 
arrangement.


I think that the "support" from the teflon disk will be smaller than the leverage you have at the edge of the knob and so the teflon fingers will be practically immediately deflected,
negating their benefit.

Comments please??  Better idea anyone?

I envision a bar of aluminum with thin ends and a fat spot in the middle supporting a bearing bushing. That bearing might be oillite, steel backed teflon, Vespar, or a needle roller bearing assembly. Such as McMaster-Carr catalog numbers 6391K126, 60695K61, 58315K42, or 5905K21. These will add some friction along with the shaft support and may require machining on the knob to give clearance. Any assembly will interfere with the knob drag mechanism if present. A little added friction may not hurt, giving the feel of there being some more drive mechanism behind the knob than just a optically sensed slotted disk, typical of the encoder is part of the wish to add a weighted knob. More like the National Dial or gear driven variable capacitor tuners of yore with a 25 or 50 to 1 gear reduction between the substantial knob and the variable capacitor. Where the top end radio tuning knobs turned like parts of precision mechanisms doing real work driving dial and capacitor (or PTO screw) often at much different rates than the knobs turned.



Phil C. Sr.

k4dpk

73, Jerry, K0CQ

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