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Subject: Re: [TenTec] SLIGHTLY OT
From: Mike Bryce <prosolar@sssnet.com>
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:56:07 -0400
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Okay...

So what I just read from the link you sent, if I take and put up a center fed 
Zepp with 66 feet on each side, fed with 450 open line and assume no loss from 
the tuner or balun that antenna won't make a even halfway decent multiband 
antenna?


Mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> Yes, it's a very popular "Ham Myth" - not helped by various articles in QST.
> 
> TLW is the software supplied by ARRL with the Antenna Book. It 
> calculates the losses and impedance transformations for various types of 
> feedline, given the load impedance. It typically underestimates losses, 
> and I would normally use the VK1OD on-line calculator in preference to 
> it, but that doesn't include a model for 600 Ohm line whereas TLW does.
> 
> Here are the calculated losses for various types of line - all 110ft 
> long and at 1.9MHz - when terminated in 11-j930 Ohms:
> 
> TLW, ARRL "generic" 600 Ohm line: 2.6dB
> VK1OD, Wireman 551 ladderline : 6dB
> VK1OD, Wireman 551 ladderline (wet): 8.2dB
> 
> Remember this is all at 160m !!!!
> 
> If you'd like to know more, take a look at this review of the QST 
> article "The Lure of Ladder Line":
> http://vk1od.net/transmissionline/LOLL/
> 
> 73,
> Steve G3TXQ
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/04/2011 20:58, Mike Bryce wrote:
>> Don't shoot me!
>> 
>> But I always read that open line feed was lossless.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Steve Hunt<steve@karinya.net>  wrote:
>> 
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