TenTec
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [TenTec] Omni 6+ - no output on 12M/10M and omni 6+/ power issue

To: ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6+ - no output on 12M/10M and omni 6+/ power issue
From: Wayne Dial <w8aju_wdial@att.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:32:40 -0800 (PST)
List-post: <tentec@contesting.com">mailto:tentec@contesting.com>
Ken, if I'm correct the output from the l.o. mixer , port 26, should be pretty 
much the same on all bands?  I do have a good scope but do not have a good 
signal generator.  I used to have all that quality equipment  on the job, but I 
have been retired from the business for 13 yrs.  The l.o. mixer board is nested 
below a cover which has  another board mounted on the top, making it almost 
impossible, with out a wiring harness, to make live checks.  I have made ohm 
meter check of of the switching coming into the board and all looks okay. I've 
checked the diodes at the output of of u2 feeding the bandpass filters and they 
are all okay.  I've not checked the solder joints.   I do wonder about u2 
(udn2985, 8 ch. source driver) though it is rare to have that type of failure 
with a I.C. if it  has not taken some kind of abuse.

Thanks for the input and I will take the board out and check the solder joints 
with a magnify glass.

Wayne




________________________________
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>
To: geraldj@weather.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 3:20:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6+ - no output on 12M/10M and omni 6+/ power issue


> Low or no output on a band or bands can be dirty switch contacts. 10, 
> 12, and 15 haven't had much use in the past few year. It might be a 
> quarter drop of deoxit on each contact with some vigorous switch 
> operation might clean them  up, or the problem could be a poor solder 
> joint that went open or nearly open.
>  
The Omni VI uses diode switching for all of that. I don't think there is 
a single mechanical switch contact (besides the band select push button) 
involved with the band selection. If it indicates that it has switched 
to the band you want, then that pushbutton is working fine. The parallel 
band select lines that go to various boards may need cleaning and the 
bad solder joint is a possibility.
>
> Its not possible to be more specific because there can be so many ways 
> to loose a band or bands (and the crystal is not above suspicion nor the 
> crystal socket when crystals are used to heterodyne the VFO) unless one 
> has repaired many Omni VI with the same problem. I doubt there's any RF 
> difference between VI and VI+.
>  
Omni VI does not use crystal sockets. A bad crystal, or  misaligned 
inductor in the crystal oscillator circuit could be the cause. Don't 
mess with those inductors unless you have the right equipment to get 
yourself out of the trouble you may cause. The locations of the coils 
used for each band is not immediately obvious, and there is a good 
chance you'll end up adjusting one that did not need adjusting. Make 
sure you use the perfectly shaped soft plastic twiddle stick for the 
inductor slug or you will likely break the slug. You will need an 
oscilloscope with a high impedance probe (like a 10 X probe that only 
loads the circuit with 10 Meg ohms + small capacitance) to monitor the 
PLL loop in order to properly set those slugs. And when you have that 
equipment, the description of the waveform you are looking for is more 
than I'm prepared to put in this message.

DE N6KB
_______________________________________________
TenTec mailing list
TenTec@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
_______________________________________________
TenTec mailing list
TenTec@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>