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Re: [TenTec] Model 282 filter problem

To: "<ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>" <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 282 filter problem
From: "Silevitch, Michael" <m.silevitch@neu.edu>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 21:01:33 +0000
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Thank you Ken

Regards
    Mike K1PEV

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 8, 2012, at 12:25 PM, "Ken Brown" <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> There are not many parts in those filters. If you draw out the schematic by 
> looking at the PCB traces you can reason out which parts could fail in a 
> shorted mode, or in an open circuit mode, and cause complete loss of signal 
> throughput. (If you do this exercise you will no doubt realize that some of 
> the components could fail changing the filter characteristic, without making 
> the signal throughput go away altogether.) One you have decided which 
> components could cause total loss of signal, then consider the likely modes 
> of failure based on what you know about the components. I would hazard to 
> guess that them most common failure mode of crystals is open circuit, when 
> one lead breaks off from the plate on the side of the quartz crystal. For 
> disk ceramic capacitors ( that is all I have seen in the Ten-Tec filters) I 
> would guess that short circuit would be the most common failure mode, but at 
> the voltages and currents these things are subjected to in the IF of a radio, 
> it seems u
 nlikely they would ever fail.
> 
> You could short circuit the series crystals one at a time to see if signal 
> comes back. Of course you will not have the proper bandpass characteristic 
> while doing this.
> 
> The other possible cause is a failure of connections between components.This 
> I would guess is more probable than component failure. Reflow all of the 
> solder joints, and make sure the pins are clean. Then try again.
> 
> 73 DE N6KB
>> Does anyone have any insight into problems (and solutions) that would cause 
>> failure in a Ten Tec model 282 (or any other similar model) crystal filter? 
>> When the unit is plugged into its slot (on a Corsair) we get no response. 
>> Our next step is to test it on a network analyzer but I felt it would be 
>> worthwhile to also get inputs from people on the reflector.
>> 
>>  
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