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Re: Topband: Bad Frequencies and Loop Pre-amps

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Subject: Re: Topband: Bad Frequencies and Loop Pre-amps
From: Greg - ZL3IX <zl3ix@inet.net.nz>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 05:21:58 +1300
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Hi John,

Is that harmonic generated at the Tx site, or in non-linearities close to the victim receivers?

Of course, the answer to that question does not affect any recommendation on frequencies to be avoided on TB, but we should be careful about blaming broadcasters for every spurious signal heard on the band.

73, Greg, ZL3IX

On 2018-11-14 03:44 a.m., John Farrer via Topband wrote:
Roger
As Lee KX4TT stated, a harmonic on 1818kHz is a problem for us in southeast 
England in the vicinity of the Brookmans Park transmitter for Radio 5 on 909kHz.
73
John G3XHZ

Sent from my iPhone

On 13 Nov 2018, at 13:24, Roger Kennedy <roger@wessexproductions.co.uk> wrote:


I have never received ANY harmonics or intermod products from any of our
British Medium Wave (AM) broadcast stations.  That's at several different
QTHs, some of which were quite near the transmitters. (and never heard of
anyone else having issues)

They have to meet VERY high specs . . . but also, most are less than 1kW !
(one of the stations I worked for had such a good Tx site - a salt marsh -
they had to turn the power down to 150 watts!) Even the very big ones are
usually only 10kW.

So no need to avoid the 9kHz harmonics as far as us Brits are concerned!

What IS a problem is all the Russian Navigation Beacons in the Baltic that
pretty much wipe out everything between 1810 and 1820 kHz, so please try and
avoid that part of the band if you want to work any EU !  (they sometimes
turn them all off . . . but they are on most of the time.)

The pre-amp I use on my 6ft 160m receiving loop is actually the design MFJ
use in their 1026 noise canceller (I have a 1025 but copied their preamp
design, as it uses the same pcb) . . . I get no intermod during contests,
even though many EU stations are 45dB over S9 !

Roger G3YRO
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