Topband
[Top] [All Lists]

Topband: Trees and absorption

To: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: Trees and absorption
From: K1PX@aol.com (K1PX@aol.com)
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:59:02 EDT
--part1_11.18af9351.28a84816_boundary
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

 

--part1_11.18af9351.28a84816_boundary
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Disposition: inline

Return-path: <K1PX@aol.com>
From: K1PX@aol.com
Full-name: K1PX
Message-ID: <a0.18a71b28.28a80ede@aol.com>
To: <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:54:54 EDT
Subject: Trees and absorption
To: topband@contesting.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
boundary="part2_11.18af9351.28a80ede_boundary"
X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10528


--part2_11.18af9351.28a80ede_boundary
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


       Topbanders:

       This is not scientific data, as others have mentioned, but I
       have a noticeable problem with this issue at my particular
       location. 

       My property is several acres in a watershed zone with densely
       populated trees, significant foliage from spring to fall and a very 
       high water table.

       During that time, with vertically polarized antennas compared
       to horizontally polarized reference antennas, vertical polarization
       appears to be down at least 10 dB from average signal levels
       as compared to when the foliage is gone from November to May.
       That is obviously not taking into account the seasonal effects 
       of the trees themselves or the amount of water in them at any
       particular time.

       There is often water in the trees that oozes out when I screw
       eye bolts into them. I suspect there is year round absorption
       but the difference with the foliage is quite noticeable. 

       While I do have many trees close to 100' in height, I have often
       wondered how much better I would get out if they weren't there.

       But, the trees are great for elevated radials and beverage runs.

       73, Jim, K1PX

       K1PX@aol.com

--part2_11.18af9351.28a80ede_boundary
Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Topbanders:
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This is not scientific data, as others 
have mentioned, but I
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;have a noticeable problem with this 
issue at my particular
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;location. 
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;My property is several acres in a 
watershed zone with densely
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;populated trees, significant foliage 
from spring to fall and a very 
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;high water table.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;During that time, with vertically 
polarized antennas compared
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to horizontally polarized reference 
antennas, vertical polarization
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;appears to be down at least 10 dB from 
average signal levels
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;as compared to when the foliage is 
gone from November to May.
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;That is obviously not taking into 
account the seasonal effects 
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of the trees themselves or the amount 
of water in them at any
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;particular time.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;There is often water in the trees that 
oozes out when I screw
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;eye bolts into them. I suspect there 
is year round absorption
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;but the difference with the foliage is 
quite noticeable. 
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;While I do have many trees close to 
100' in height, I have often
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;wondered how much better I would get 
out if they weren't there.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But, the trees are great for elevated 
radials and beverage runs.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;73, Jim, K1PX
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;K1PX@aol.com</FONT></HTML>

--part2_11.18af9351.28a80ede_boundary--

--part1_11.18af9351.28a84816_boundary--

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
  • Topband: Trees and absorption, K1PX@aol.com <=