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Subject: | Topband: Receivers |
From: | Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu> |
Date: | Sat, 13 Nov 2004 11:23:05 -0500 |
List-post: | <mailto:topband@contesting.com> |
Hi Tom,W8JI wrote: >I'd say this effect amounts to only a dB or two effective difference in signal-to-mush, but that often is the difference between reading and not reading an ESP signal. It also means how our ears and mind processes weak signals has a large effect on how we like the Orion. The bottom line is some people are just not going to like the AGC system. I would describe it as very "mushy" sounding when looking for weak tones in the presence of noise, unless you get the settings correct. Some operators will be able to find a spot they like and love it, some are going to hate it. I very quickly discovered Orion's AGC Threshold acts like the traditional RF Gain control in other receivers. For that reason, it SHOULD have been brought to the front panel and I hope Ten-Tec may eventually do that. IMHO they could have swapped their front panel RF GAIN control (which I seldom touch) with AGC Threshold which I adjust much more frequently. The thing which I did NOT learn for about 6 months was the effect of Decay and Hang on very weak signals. Thanks to Sinisa YT1NT, he described this in his paper below: http://www.geocities.com/va3ttn/UsingOrionRX.pdf To make a long story short, the following is what I learned is very critical for receiving weak signals at the noise floor: "AGC DECAY can be kept at 5 dB/s (slightly faster in contests), with AGC HANG time at 0.30 - 1.00 seconds." I've now been using an Orion for 15 months. Although its AGC is the most different aspect of learning to use it, once you do its AGC can be a major benefit. Unlike traditional rigs, you do not need to continually ride the RF and AF Gain controls once you get it set for a particular antenna. This is especially noticeable in contests, and I feel it has helped me copy more weak callers correctly the first time. This also makes for much less operator fatigue. Like you said, there is no perfect rig. Everything has its plusses and minuses. For me Orion's plusses, especially strong signal handling performance in contests and on the low bands, far outweigh its minuses, but I'm sure others would reach the opposite conclusion as you said. I simply don't buy Earl's argument that Orion is a "dud" for weak signals. In the most recent CQ WW SSB, I had the highest number of 10m DX QSO's of any USA station. All multiop stations below have much larger antenna systems, multiple operators, dual positions, packet, etc. My NC QTH is not the farthest south and my ears cannot be that much better than others. If Orion is preventing me from hearing weak DX signals, I cannot understand these results and hope someone will explain. http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2004-11/msg00158.html Total 10m QSO's: W4ZV 1862 KC1XX 1766 W3LPL 1627 K9NS 1533 K3LR 1463 (M/2, so not really a valid comparison) NQ4I 1458 73, Bill W4ZV _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband |
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