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Re: Topband: Suggestions for a tower?

To: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Suggestions for a tower?
From: Edward via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Edward <navydude1962@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 13:45:48 -0700
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Nicely put, Tom!

> On Apr 24, 2014, at 13:28, "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com> wrote:
> 
> The best antenna is always the one that makes us feel good, no matter how the 
> antenna really works.
> 
> The problems with most of the suggestions are:
> 
> 1.) most are anecdotal "feelings", where there were no lengthy blind A-B 
> tests against a known good reference antenna
> 
> 2.) different paths and locations produce different results
> 
> 3.) installations are often cluttered with random things that interact with 
> antennas. Even 400-500 feet is fairly close spacing for antennas on 160
> 
> Without a series of blind A-B tests against a known *good* antenna over a 
> period of time, it is all just feelings. I went through all the grief of 
> installing a 300ft plus tall tower because I remembered how well a dipole 
> 300ft high worked. I can't get someone to use a dipole on that tower once 
> they use a tall vertical with a good ground system. I can't get someone to 
> use the tall vertical once they use a four square. Going back over my logs 
> 30+ years ago, I realize the high dipole wasn't actually that good in Ohio. I 
> just remembered it better than it was, like a 14-15 second car that I thought 
> was a rocket ship.
> 
> Someplace below the high dipole's performance come the delta loops and 
> sloppers.
> 
> Of course this can be different for different regional locations. Not only 
> does the quality of the installation affect opinions, so does the mental 
> attitude of the operator and the world location.
> 
> All that said and done, there are very few properly installed 160 meter 
> verticals that won't work well, and there are darned few horizontals that 
> will work better than good verticals, when looked at over a long period of 
> time. I can't even imagine trying to predict results or give advice when a 
> wire is stuck in between a bunch of random things, like conductive guylines 
> and other antennas.
> 
> 73 Tom 
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