Fred, what made it easy was hearing an English language pop song that I could
easily identify through the fading and static. Switching the VFO to the
broadcast band, I simply scanned until I heard the same song. Confirmed it with
several other songs that nailed it. My Korean is rusty so the music made it
easy.
Rick
> On Jan 6, 2023, at 8:16 AM, FRED BELGHAUS <fbelghaus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rick, you are probably correct. I recall at least one prior problem with
> WWRU's signal several years ago.
>
> Their programming is in the Korean language (according to Wiki). If that's
> what you're hearing, BINGO.
> WADO's programming is Spanish, and has been for many years.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred W2AAB
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 7:56 AM Rick Lapp <rick@ricklapp.net
> <mailto:rick@ricklapp.net>> wrote:
>> Frank,
>> 1660 +10dB
>> 620 S4
>> 1010 +10dB
>> 1190 S6
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 6, 2023, at 7:36 AM, Frank W3LPL <donovanf@starpower.net
>> > <mailto:donovanf@starpower.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Rick,
>> >
>> > If you're hearing more than one audio stream on 1940 kHz
>> > do you also hear program content from:
>> >
>> > 1660 kHz WWRU or
>> > 620 WSNR
>> > 1010 WINS
>> > 1190 WLIB
>> >
>> > tks
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Frank
>> > W3LPL
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Rick Lapp" <rick@ricklapp.net <mailto:rick@ricklapp.net>>
>> > To: "topband" <topband@contesting.com <mailto:topband@contesting.com>>
>> > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 12:07:50 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder
>> >
>> > I’m fairly confident that I’ve identified the signal to be coming from
>> > 1660 kHz, WWRU in Jersey City NJ. There is considerable fading but I
>> > confirmed the source by listening to the programming, switching back and
>> > forth between two VFOs on the TS890.
>> >
>> > I’m located in Eastern Long Island, NY about 50 miles east of NYC. The
>> > 1660 signal is well over S9 and the 1940 is S4-5 max. At times, the signal
>> > changes abruptly in amplitude.
>> >
>> > Rick, KC2FD
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jan 5, 2023, at 10:23 PM, FRED BELGHAUS <fbelghaus@gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:fbelghaus@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> If we mix 1280 and 1660 we get these 2 stations:
>> >>
>> >> 1280 WADO 50 kW Day / 7200 W Night (Licensed to NYC) but transmitter in
>> >> Carlstadt, NJ
>> >> 1660 WWRU 10 kW Day & Night Jersey City, NJ
>> >>
>> >> (Info via): http://mesamike.org/radio/cdbs/amdb.mvc
>> >>
>> >> These stations are about 12 miles apart.
>> >>
>> >> Fred W2AAB
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 12:21 PM Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com
>> >> <mailto:lists@subich.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2023-01-05 11:26 AM, A J wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> It sounds like two station are there possibly more.
>> >>>
>> >>> Intermodulaton (mixing) ...
>> >>>
>> >>>> I heard a frequency 1610khz said.
>> >>>
>> >>> You have two frequencies, solve for the third.
>> >>> 1940 = 2 * x - 1610 = 1775 (out of band)
>> >>> or 1940 = 2 * 1610 - x = 1280
>> >>>
>> >>> I would start looking at the allocations for a community
>> >>> where you have a 1610 and 280 close together (preferably
>> >>> co-located).
>> >>>
>> >>> 73,
>> >>>
>> >>> ... Joe, W4TV
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2023-01-05 11:26 AM, A J wrote:
>> >>>> Hi All
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It sounds like two station are there possibly more.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I heard a frequency 1610khz said.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No directional antenna to the south east. Just North and NE nothing
>> >>>> heard on those. It is heard on the inverted V at varying levels.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The info draws a picture. See link below.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://www.contesting.com/data/profile/ve3hj/photo.jpeg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> AJ___ VE3HJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 1/5/23 00:09, Frank W3LPL wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi Jim,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> No one has yet reported a strong enough signal to be sure if its a
>> >>> mixing
>> >>>>> product or a harmonic. Because everyone -- so far -- is reporting a
>> >>> weak
>> >>>>> signal I suspect its a mixing product. Two reporters said that the
>> >>> audio
>> >>>>> is badly distorted and appears to carrying two programs.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The signal it too weak here for me to analyze.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It appears to radiate from the vicinity on northern NJ, NY City or
>> >>>>> southern NY
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Perhaps a Topbander is that vicinity will report a stronger signal
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 73
>> >>>>> Frank
>> >>>>> W3LPL
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "K9YC" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
>> >>>>> <mailto:jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>>
>> >>>>> To: "topband" <topband@contesting.com <mailto:topband@contesting.com>>
>> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 4:48:50 AM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Topband: 1940 kHz Intruder
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm much too far away to hear anything, but the obvious question is,
>> >>>>> "is
>> >>>>> it a harmonic or a mix?" So is anyone hearing it loud enough to tell
>> >>>>> if
>> >>>>> there are two programs or only one?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 1/4/2023 7:04 PM, samjos@epix.net <mailto:samjos@epix.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> From NE PA FN11VF bearing is roughly NNE. Too distorted to make out.
>> >>>>>>
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