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Re: Topband: Adding radials, a question

To: W8JI@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Adding radials, a question
From: "Richard Detweiler" <rdetweil@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:56:42 -0500
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Thank you for your reply

True any thing directly from a vendor is suspect, but when it resounds so directly to vertical theory, then it should be respected.

Although I do not claim to be an expert, I chose the link as it put the information printed in the ARRL manual, various white papers and so forth in the most understandable format.

I respectfully disagree with your comment. Others may be able to confirm seeing the Q rising as radials are increased along with other points being made.

Thanks again and Best 73's
richard.
K5SF

From: "Tom Rauch" <W8JI@contesting.com>
Reply-To: "Tom Rauch" <W8JI@contesting.com>
To: "Richard Detweiler" <rdetweil@hotmail.com>, <w5un@wt.net>
CC: <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Adding radials, a question
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:46:44 -0400

> As I understand it for ground mounted verticals, as you put in more
radials,
> the 'Q' gets higher. Especially for for low bands (160 & 80) Thus as the
> radials increase, the radiation resistance increases ( the good kind ) and
> and the ground loss or ground resistance decreases ( the bad kind ).
Excuse
> my teminoligy here. So the total resistance approaches the more perfect
35
> ohm vertical impedence. Obviously, it can never be fully acheived but the
> point is this, when the Q stops rising appreciably, you've probably put
in
> enough radials for the amount of wire you have in the air.
>
> Of important note here is that the length of the radial isn't really
> important as the ground detunes them, but the need to be somewhere about
as
> long as the height fo the vertical.


Hi Rich,

Actually nearly all of that is not true as a rule. I'd never rely on a
manufacturers web page for critical antenna information.

73 Tom




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