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Re: Topband: ARRL 160 comments

To: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160 comments
From: Dave Cuthbert <telegrapher9@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 06:20:30 -1000
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Thank you all for another fine ARRL 160 meter contest! To me 5NN is a
preamble that helps get one ready in both amplitude and code speed for the
real data to follow. By the way, of over 400 Qs only one op sent other than
5NN. Unfortunately these serve to throw one off by having to correct the
log, or even miss it, resulting in no points for that one. We will see you
all in the Stew Perry Distance Challenge with our shore located full size
ground plane.

  73, Dave KH6AQ

On Tue, Dec 9, 2025 at 4:08 AM Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I participate in some on air activities that involve low power and/or
> compromise antennas. Honest signal reports are desired and appreciated.
> Perhaps not so much in the Stew but RST is not dead yet.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
> > On Dec 8, 2025, at 5:19 PM, n0tt1@juno.com wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> Another trend I noted was people not sending the 599. Several were just
> > sending their section.
> >  The "599" is a place filler in the exchange, but not sending it seemed
> > to slow things down."
> >
> > I noticed that too.  Other OPs are expecting a certain sequence in the
> > exchange
> > and if that's disrupted then it may cause a problem.  Especially if
> > signal strength
> > is marginal.
> >
> > Charlie, N0TT
> >
> > On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 15:36:26 +0000 jon jones <n0jk@hotmail.com> writes:
> >> I missed K7RAT despite looking... I had put up a ¼ wave wire in tall
> >> trees on our farm north of Lawrence. It worked really well. It came
> >> down last week in the snow storm. So to hand out a few Qs used
> >> the rain gutter on our home again.
> >>
> >> Despite a minimal antenna and my old TS-850 at 50 watts, worked many
> >> people "S & P" including PJ2T and KP4AA. And Don, WD8DSB — thanks!
> >>
> >> Conditions seemed down Friday night with east coast stations weak
> >> and unworkable. Better Saturday evening and worked many W2, W3s and
> >> K1KI CT. Copied several W6 but no luck. N7EPD WWA strong but didn't
> >> copy me. High K index didn't help.
> >>
> >> Tree has a point with the exchange issue and timing. Sending the
> >> other station's call helps. Another trend I noted was people not
> >> sending the 599. Several were just sending their section. The "599"
> >> is a place filler in the exchange, but not sending it seemed to slow
> >> things down.
> >>
> >>
> >>  *
> >> Jon N0JK
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >>> Conditions have not been so good - although I did manage some East
> >> Coast
> >> QSOs around midnight local time.
> >>
> >> One or two QSOs didn't make it into the log for a reason I would
> >> like to
> >> share.  When the band is open to Europe for the East Coast, it is
> >> common
> >> for us West Coast people to end up on their frequency as it is
> >> totally
> >> clear on this end.  If an East Coast station sends their call sign -
> >> but
> >> totally out of sync, we pretty much know what is happening.
> >> However, if
> >> the timing is good - then we can feel confident that they are
> >> working us.
> >>
> >> However, when I am low power - it is hard for the East coast station
> >> to
> >> hear me - add in some QSB - and thus the timing might get messed up.
> >> I had
> >> this happen last night (calls changed to protect the guilty):
> >>
> >> CQ TEST K7RAT
> >> K3ZO
> >> K3ZO 5NN OR
> >> <nothing>
> >> K3ZO 5NN OR
> >> <nothing>
> >> K3ZO 5NN OR
> >> <them sending the exchange but out of sync>
> >> <K3ZO 5NN OR>
> >> K3ZO 5NN MDC
> >> <nothing>
> >>
> >> At no time during this am I feeling very confident that I am the one
> >> being
> >> worked.  Instead of sending K3ZO again - which I already have -
> >> sending
> >> K7RAT once would really help me understand what is happening.
> >>
> >> Food for thought.  Again - if the QSO is well timed, this isn't
> >> necessary -
> >> but if things are difficult due to QSB, sending the "other" guy's
> >> call when
> >> S&Ping really helps.
> >>
> >> Thanks for reading.
> >>
> >> Tree N6TR / K7RAT
> >>
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