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Re: Topband: ARRL 160

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Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 10:35:57 -0500
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From 13 years experience rather than detailed analysis or any knowledge of VE3NEA's decoding methods, I don't think that an additional half-space is a big problem - certainly not as compared to running things together - for example making TEST N4ZR into TESTN4ZR.  The latter makes for many bum spots of TN4ZR, TK2XX, etc.  I see those in numbers every contest.

73, Pete N4ZR
One of the RBN team

On 12/7/2022 8:08 PM, m.r.c. wrote:
that's where added half space has a useful point.  your increase in copied accuracy should more than offset the decrease in spot accuracy

the ZIP speed change for any part is the first thing I get rid of sitting down at a position, the pico gain in time is far offset by the annoyance and accuracy loss

especially on top band I dislike the S and T, and any mis use of a character. NN is just an exchange so it matters less unless its used in a zone- BAD idea-. Its tough enough to copy correctly sent data, don't make it harder just to gain 50 microseconds.

off soap

WA6CDR



----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe" <nss@mwt.net>
To: <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2022 14:05
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160


I'll differ on the half space thing.

I cut my repeat needs by at LEAST 75% and still get spotted by the RBN all the time, (well not much on 160 he he he)

But on bands where i got good signals my repeats are far less when I use

W9~E~T than when I use W9ET

Joe WB9SBD

On 12/7/2022 9:13 AM, Mike VE9AA ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca wrote:
Lee et al,

Which just goes to further prove my point. The RBN (& skimmers) are truly wonderful tech, but they are not perfect even if your CW is (or nearly so).

Please do not be surprised by the occasional bust or dupe if you are doing something "weird" with your callsign by adding 1/2 spaces, slowing letters down and whatnot.

Human brains may (or maynot) be able to deal with that somewhat better (up for debate - I personally dislike it done to most callsigns), but computers don't 'know' what the intent is with that type of sending.

VE9AA

======================
I get spotted as KX4M and KK4TT all the time. It does not matter if I send by
hand or through N1MM / Winkeyer.

73 de Lee KX4TT



On Wednesday, December 7, 2022, 08:48:47 AM EST, <kq2m@kq2m.com> wrote:

Hi Ron,

The wrong call sign spotting and "run of dupes" happens a few times a
year to me.
Bob, KQ2M</pre>
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