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Re: [TowerTalk] Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 44

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 44
From: "Jerry Connelly" <jerryc@clinchrivercorp.com>
Reply-to: Jerry Connelly <jerryc@clinchrivercorp.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:34:32 -0500
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Joe
Better check with another supplier.  We regularly
use galvanized bolts and we never use anything less
than grade 5.  Grade 2 is just too soft and results in
too many broken bolts just tightening them.
JerryC
KC8TES


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "joegps" <joegps@snet.net>
To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:40 AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 44


> Hi All,
> On galvanized bolts the strongest that you can buy is
> a grade two, and if remember correctly Rohn supplied
> galvanized bolts.
> Joe K1NCO
> --- towertalk-request@contesting.com wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. FS:  Telex-Hygain TH-7DX $95. & 2 Others (doc)
> >    2. Who Shot John (Buyer or Seller) Can we end
> > this? (W0UCE)
> >    3. Analog coaxial trunks? Not bathing, that's for
> > sure...
> >       (K7LXC@aol.com)
> >    4. 1020 DOM MAST (N4BAA - JOSE CASTILLO)
> >    5. Re: Soldering and checking PL-259 (Tom Rauch)
> >    6. Re: Soldering and checking PL-259 (Floyd
> > Sense)
> >    7. Re: Soldering and checking PL-259 (Tom Rauch)
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:47:03 -0500
> > From: doc <kd4e@verizon.net>
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] FS:  Telex-Hygain TH-7DX $95. &
> > 2 Others
> > To: FLBOATANCHORS@yahoogroups.com,
> > towertalk@contesting.com
> > Message-ID: <420C0087.4030804@verizon.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> > format=flowed
> >
> > Giant beam with awesome performance (check the
> > Telex-Hygain
> > site or the eHam reviews) ... I am putting up a used
> > F12 C3SS.
> >
> > The TH-7DX comes with a manual copy and you will
> > need to coil
> > up some coax in place of the BN-86 balun.  Also,
> > needs a
> > couple of elements fixed.
> >
> > Most of the beam is really clean, especially the
> > coils and
> > elements.  Boom and mast plate have some wear but
> > are OK.
> >
> > Telex-Hygain TH-7DX $95. picked up in West Central
> > Florida.
> >
> > Way to big to haul to Hamcation unless I tear it
> > down to a
> > zillion discrete pieces ... the former owner used
> > pop rivets
> > and RTV at every connection ... this was assembled
> > to stay
> > assembled no matter what!
> >
> > I also have two smaller HF beams, Hygain Explorer 14
> > w/original
> > manual, the other I think is a Hygain TH3-MK4
> > w/manual copy.
> > I plan to bring them to Hamcation in Orlando
> > Saturday.  Both
> > are clearly marked for easy assembly.  I am asking
> > $150. for
> > the EXP-14 and $125. for the TH3.  $250. for both.
> >
> > 73, doc kd4e
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:09:33 -0500
> > From: "W0UCE" <W0UCE@nc.rr.com>
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Who Shot John (Buyer or Seller)
> > Can we end this?
> > To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <011d01c50fde$baba1200$6600a8c0@BOYSCLUB>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> > Nobody is perfect HOWEVER... we all can and should
> > be honest and take
> > responsibility for our actions.   Regardless of what
> > transpired between
> > seller and buyer; thankfully no one was hurt or
> > killed because a product
> > that was not suitable was sold or a product put to
> > use by a buyer.
> >
> > We are all responsible for our individual actions
> > and at some point will
> > be held accountable.
> >
> > Let's move on to helping each other and exchanging
> > information of value
> > to fellow subscribers and our hobby.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >    WØUCE
> > Homepage Website
> >  www.w0uce.net
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> > Of Doug Renwick
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:08 PM
> > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn wasn't perfect-- can
> > we end this please?
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Please refrain from trying to turn speculation into
> > fact. You obviously
> > side with KQ2M.  You and I do not know the facts!
> > To pretend that you
> > do, only adds 'wood to the fire'.  On one hand you
> > say 'it is enough'
> > and then you proceed to pick on K4IDC.  We know by
> > his unnecessarily
> > long and vicious email that KQ2M has problems.
> > Please keep your
> > politics
> > off Tower Talk.
> >
> > Doug/VA5DX
> >
> >
> >
> > kk9a@arrl.net wrote:
> >
> > > I agree that since this thread started several
> > months ago it is enough
> > (or
> > > enuf, as many spell it) on the subject.   I
> > disagree that this does
> > not
> > > belong on towertalk, however the name calling
> > certainly does not
> > belong
> > > here.   If a vendor offers poor service or worse
> > yet poor quality we
> > should
> > > be informed.   Obviously, KQ2M is pretty upset and
> > this could easily
> > be
> > > resolved  if  K4IDC (ex KB4IDC) would simply
> > accept the return of
> > > merchandise.  If it's true that KQ2M expected to
> > get Rohn torque bars
> > and
> > > hardware and instead got something fabricated by
> > K4IDC  using lesser
> > quality
> > > hardware, this is fraud.  A number of people seem
> > happy with K4IDC's
> > > products, however it's possible that they did not
> > notice grade 2 bolts
> > > instead of Rohn spec grade 5 and perhaps didn't
> > expect Rohn brackets.
> > Since
> > > this is a safety related item, it should
> > definitely be brought to
> > everyone's
> > > attention.  If you choose to purchase from K4IDC ,
> > great, just be sure
> > you
> > > know exactly what you are buying.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > John KK9A
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting
> > Towers", "Wireless
> > Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free,
> > 1-800-333-9041 with
> > any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:16:13 -0500
> > From: K7LXC@aol.com
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] Analog coaxial trunks? Not
> > bathing, that's for
> > sure...
> > To: jimlux@earthlink.net, towertalk@contesting.com
> > Message-ID: <364E3822.7E524F9B.0000DB5D@aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Lux" <jimlux@earthlink.net>
> >
> > > In the cable TV world, they tend to use dBmV (into
> > 75 ohms, presumably),
> > > but in any case losses should work the same
> > regardless, a typical path
> > from
> > > "mainline cable" appears to be something like 26
> > dB for the tap, 2dB for
> > > the drop, 6dB for inhouse cable and splitters, so
> > 34dB from "main wire" to
> > > the -40 odd at the set.(I seem to recall something
> > like -33 dBm
> > corresponds
> > > to +15dBmV, which is a typical level). Figure at
> > least zero, and then
> > > they'd add some margin, so they're probably
> > running +10 dBm (per carrier)
> > > or several watts down the wire with all 100+
> > channels...
> >
> > >  Generally I think the carrier levels on analog
> > coaxial trunks are
> > set at something like +33dBmV/carrier (~-15dBm).
> >
> > Holy leaky coax, Batman! What the heck does that
> > have to do with towers and HF antenna construction
> > projects? Please QSY to the RF engineers reflector
> > and let us mere mortals get back to antenna and
> > erection topics. Thank you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steve    K7LXC
> > TT ADMIN
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:23:09 -0500
> > From: N4BAA - JOSE CASTILLO <n4baa@cox.net>
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] 1020 DOM MAST
> > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> > Message-ID: <420BC2AD.3050401@cox.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
> > format=flowed
> >
> > Would appreciate any comments on 2" OD 1020 DOM mast
> > material.
> >
> > I am planning on putting a FORCE 12 4BA 10 feet over
> > a 5 ele
> > 20 METER monobander on a 40 foot boom.
> >
> > I will need 18 feet of 2" OD mast.  8 feet is in the
> > tower
> > with two thrust bearings...and 10 feet outside the
> > tower.
> >
> > Your comments are very much solicited.
> >
> > 73's
> >
> > Jose Castillo
> > N4BAA and KG4SB
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:54:19 -0500
> > From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Soldering and checking
> > PL-259
> > To: "Daniel Hileman" <n9wx_dan@yahoo.com>,
> > <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <001401c51028$09cb93c0$6501a8c0@akorn.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > > First off, I want to thank everyone for all the
> > great
> > > suggestions and comments I've received with
> > previous
> > > questions. Ok, here's another for you. I'm getting
> > > ready for various antenna projects and tower work
> > this
> > > Spring/Summer, I need to know what to look for a
> > how
> > > to check my soldering job on PL-259's
> >
> > The  way I check a PL259 is with traditional ohm
> > reading and
> > applying high voltage between the center pin and
> > shield and
> > check voltage breakdown. Any stray strands or
> > deformed
> > insulation shows up very well this way.
> >
> > Typically the PL259's I test break down at more than
> > 6kV
> > peak voltage by arcing across the pin to shell gap
> > OUTSIDE
> > the connector body. A typical N fails around 3kV,
> > again with
> > an external arc.
> >
> > 73 Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 07:50:09 -0500
> > From: "Floyd Sense" <fsense@copper.net>
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Soldering and checking
> > PL-259
> > To: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>,
> > <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Message-ID: <003601c51038$3909e550$97239904@DEN>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
> > charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Tom - what sort of high voltage source do you use
> > for this testing?  I see a
> > few hi-pot testers on ebay from time to time and
> > wonder what would be
> > adequate for testing vacuum caps and other things
> > such as the connectors.
> >
> > K8AC
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
> > To: "Daniel Hileman" <n9wx_dan@yahoo.com>;
> > <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 5:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Soldering and checking
> > PL-259
> >
> >
> > >> First off, I want to thank everyone for all the
> > great
> > >> suggestions and comments I've received with
> > previous
> > >> questions. Ok, here's another for you. I'm
> > getting
> > >> ready for various antenna projects and tower work
> > this
> > >> Spring/Summer, I need to know what to look for a
> > how
> > >> to check my soldering job on PL-259's
> > >
> > > The  way I check a PL259 is with traditional ohm
> > reading and
> > > applying high voltage between the center pin and
> > shield and
> > > check voltage breakdown. Any stray strands or
> > deformed
> > > insulation shows up very well this way.
> > >
> > > Typically the PL259's I test break down at more
> > than 6kV
> > > peak voltage by arcing across the pin to shell gap
> > OUTSIDE
> > > the connector body. A typical N fails around 3kV,
> > again with
> > > an external arc.
> > >
> > > 73 Tom
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > >
> > > See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self
> > Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> > > Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll
> > Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
> > > any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:23:19 -0500
> > From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Soldering and checking
> > PL-259
> > To: "Floyd Sense" <fsense@copper.net>,
> > <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Message-ID:
> > <005d01c51045$3c131ac0$6501a8c0@akorn.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >
> > > Tom - what sort of high voltage source do you use
> > for this
> > testing?  I see a
> > > few hi-pot testers on ebay from time to time and
> > wonder
> > what would be
> > > adequate for testing vacuum caps and other things
> > such as
> > the connectors.
> >
> > While I have hi-pot testers, I often use a small
> > surplus 12
> > volt to 18kV power supply originally used for
> > copiers. I
> > just vary the input voltage.
> >
> > I use it because it can run from nicads.
> >
> > Almost any low current HV supply will do. Hi-pots
> > work fine.
> >
> > 73 Tom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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> >
> > End of TowerTalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 44
> > *****************************************
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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